kenoki wrote:whatever's clever, but DO YOUR FUGGIN' RESEARCH!

SATURDAY, May 5 (HealthDay News) -- In another sign of the alarming childhood obesity epidemic in the United States, researchers report a 200 percent increase in the number of children hospitalized for type 2 diabetes.

Type 2 diabetes, which used to be called adult onset diabetes because it was rarely seen in children, is typically diagnosed in patients who are overweight. Left untreated, it can lead to such complications as heart disease, blindness, nerve damage and kidney damage.

The dramatic increase in pediatric type 2 diabetes occurred nationwide between 1997 and 2003, according to the study by researchers at New York University School of Medicine.

"The rapid rise in childhood obesity is now common knowledge," said Dr. David Katz, director of Yale University School of Medicine's Prevention Research Center, who was not involved in the study. "Increasingly, so is the concurrent rise in type 2 diabetes in children -- a generation ago, this condition did not exist. What is now called type 2 diabetes was called adult onset diabetes until quite recently."

"Epidemic childhood obesity has transformed a chronic disease of mid-life into a pediatric scourge," Katz added.

For the study, Dr. Rhonda Graves, a pediatrician, and her colleagues used data from nationwide hospital discharge records from 1997, 2000 and 2003. They compared the trends in hospitalization rates, length of stay and costs for children with type 2 diabetes and type 1 diabetes.

They found that rates of hospitalization for type 1 diabetes increased 15 percent between 1997 and 2003, while rates of hospitalizations for type 2 diabetes increased 200 percent.

"These findings, based on hospital records of a nationally representative sample of hospitals in the U.S.A., indicate that type 2 diabetes is increasingly becoming a pediatric illness that results in hospitalizations. It is associated with a very serious number of co-morbidities and complications which may have profound health implications both in childhood and in adulthood," Graves said in a prepared statement.

Graves' team also found that hospitalizations for type 2 diabetes were 1.3 times more likely for boys than girls. Children 9 to 12 years old had the highest rates of hospitalization.

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mr.arrison wrote:As a side note: I don't know why non-vegetarians always feel threatened by vegetarians and vegans.

Because it represents the possibility of individual political action, and conscious self-denial for the sake of the betterment of others (animals in this case). This is not a concept that many are comfortable with.

Im comfortable with your concept. It's just Im more comfortable eating a medium rare cow patty with bacon and a large helping of dairy on top. Oh, individual political action is possible and it is represented in my life.

Hmmm, speaking of individual political action. This reminds me of the time I was in a great Sushi restaurant. I was in there early, and the chef proudly asked me which Salmon should be killed for the evenings Salmon sashimi and courses. I pointed at one salmon in the tank and the chef caught it with his net, put in on the cutting board, and yelled "showtime." Mind you, I was not in a english speaking country so the yelling of showtime had me laughing my ass off. Then it happened, in one clean swoop of the blade the head was on the floor and the fish lay flapping on the cutting board. Great memory and that was some of the freshest fish I have ever eaten.

Wait what were we talking about? Ah yea, a good "political action" experience for you vegans. Hey maybe you can all discuss the Woody Harrelson endorsed book Raw. while eating......raw food.....and then eat a veggie burger, chicken, bacon or whatever else you've flavored soy/tofu as these days because you know you want the real thing!!!! You guys are like so individually groundbreakingly political....when it comes to food.

kenoki wrote:hey wasn't it just like a week ago when a couple (from buckhead/atlanta) were sentenced life in prison for killing their baby, having raised it on a vegan diet of "organic apple juice and soy milk?" not that this has anything to do with an ideal vegan diet, i mean these people birthed their kid in a bathtub and never took it to a hospital for fear of germs... also, a vegan couple in new york were sentanced to life in prison for a similar situation... and a vegan couple in florida got manslaughter for killing their kid with an inappropriate vegan diet. so i guess the moral of the story is... whatever's clever, but DO YOUR FUGGIN' RESEARCH!

mr.arrison wrote:

kenoki wrote:hey wasn't it just like a week ago when a couple (from buckhead/atlanta) were sentenced life in prison for killing their baby, having raised it on a vegan diet of "organic apple juice and soy milk?" not that this has anything to do with an ideal vegan diet, i mean these people birthed their kid in a bathtub and never took it to a hospital for fear of germs... also, a vegan couple in new york were sentanced to life in prison for a similar situation... and a vegan couple in florida got manslaughter for killing their kid with an inappropriate vegan diet. so i guess the moral of the story is... whatever's clever, but DO YOUR FUGGIN' RESEARCH!

I am sure there are more babies who die from malnutrition, salmonella,e coli, unclean water and unsanitary conditions than these media-hyped "vegan baby and wacky liberal left wing commie pinko lesbian hippie vegan parent" stories... however Nancy Grace and Sean Hannity won't be talking about them since poverty and unsanitary conditions that make those other deaths possible are kind of "boring" and they usually affect people who aren't white and privileged..

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mr.arrison wrote:

kenoki wrote:hey wasn't it just like a week ago when a couple (from buckhead/atlanta) were sentenced life in prison for killing their baby, having raised it on a vegan diet of "organic apple juice and soy milk?" not that this has anything to do with an ideal vegan diet, i mean these people birthed their kid in a bathtub and never took it to a hospital for fear of germs... also, a vegan couple in new york were sentanced to life in prison for a similar situation... and a vegan couple in florida got manslaughter for killing their kid with an inappropriate vegan diet. so i guess the moral of the story is... whatever's clever, but DO YOUR FUGGIN' RESEARCH!

I am sure there are more babies who die from malnutrition, salmonella,e coli, unclean water and unsanitary conditions than these media-hyped "vegan baby and wacky liberal left wing commie pinko lesbian hippie vegan parent" stories... however Nancy Grace and Sean Hannity won't be talking about them since poverty and unsanitary conditions that make those other deaths possible are kind of "boring" and they usually affect people who aren't white and privileged..

I'm sure there are. But that doesn't make it acceptable for white and privileged people to damage their offspring in some piss-brained stab at the moral highground.

mr.arrison wrote:
As I have already stated, me and my veggie friends get more militant BS from meat-eaters than any of us have ever dished out on anyone.