Arson Smith wrote:I JUST HOPE THIS MOTHERFUCKER SELLS LIKE HOTCAKES.

Marketing trends show that Hot Cakes no longer sell much in first-world countries. So please, refrain from hoping a hot cakes sales figure will show upon release of this record.

Since the death of Falwell, big black (...) double dongs have been selling more than they ever have. Please, post-edit as to not jinx the band.

Steve V. wrote:Since the death of Falwell, big black (...) double dongs have been selling more than they ever have.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all... or is it that Falwell is now able to purchase more of them for himself using Sugar Daddy Satan's credit card?

hogrot wrote:

Brinkman wrote:I waited until Shellac's Canadian tour about five years later so I could buy the first two albums and a tour shirt from them in person.

this to me is as much of an endorsement for downloading as it is an argument against. buying direct from a touring band is something I try to do. I did it with mclusky- bought a t-shirt and the three full lengths I'd had on my ipod for a year when i got to see them play. If I didn't have the mp3s I would've bought the albums from someone else.

This to me is just an endorsement of Mclusky. Supposing you got sick of the mp3s after giving the band a try for a few months, you would have gone to their show and bought the albums from them out of some sense of obligation, right?

When you spend money on something you hold it in a different light than if that same thing were given to you for free. Music critics are mostly useless for this very reason and their motives are suspect; are they heaping praise and hyperbole on an album to further a friend's career and ensure that the trickle of promotional releases flows their way? And when nothing's in it for them, aren't they more likely to prematurely dismiss an album that deserves multiple listens before it opens up? I think the subsequent reappraisal and reissue of thirty-year-old albums is evidence of this phenomenon.

Telling normal people they should should go out and pay for something you got for free is dishonest, as is dismissing an album that's value for you was artificially cheapened when you elected to download it.
So tell me which Mclusky LP I should get first and I will pony up for it, on your word, all old-fashioned like ma and pa did. Well, assuming it's already in stores.

Theft and will you/won't you buy it? momentarily aside, I just want to listen to it first time around like I always have. In the past, i've repeatedly heard songs that have prompted me to buy an album. That joy in holding the album in your hands - the songs and the package that they're a part of - is one of my favourite experiences. Coming across a friend's cassette copy isn't that fun to listen to - it's a good sampler if you haven't heard the band/album before. I'm saying that I want to experience the music in the way it's intended, as I view a record as being more than a list of songs.

I know who Shellac are and i've wanted to listen to this for some time, so fuck the leak.

Arson Smith wrote:

Steve V. wrote:Since the death of Falwell, big black (...) double dongs have been selling more than they ever have.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all... or is it that Falwell is now able to purchase more of them for himself using Sugar Daddy Satan's credit card?

Well, when he was alive, the use of double dongs was vehemently condemned by the church. Now that he's dead, those Xian folk can easily get away with inviting all the neighbors to the block party...of butt-fucking.

I downloaded and...

it's kinda really dissappointing.

Am I right in assuming that discussing specific individuals/bands in this context is shite, but the idea of downloading leaked material is fair game for discussion?

Glofus wrote:I downloaded and...

it's kinda really dissappointing.

instant gratification generally is.

Yes, I think a moment of prayer is in order... we all have a lot of deep soul searching to do.