gcbv wrote:

that damned fly wrote:
fugazi used very little effects.

This illustration of Ian's "setup" at guitargeek always cracks me up, especially after you look at some of the other setups people have:

Argument definitly had more tricks than previous records.

In On The Kill Taker is my favourite Fugazi album ever. Loaned to me by my now brother in law when I was 15 and bought in my first week at Uni.

Still one of my main sources of ripping off when I write stuff.

steve wrote:"The Album The Recorded with Steve" is a much weaker version of the album "In on the Kill Taker," which is all anybody realy needs to hear.

At the time, I was disappointed that the band didn't use any of the Chicago material, but I should have been disappointed that it wasn't up to their standards. The for-real album is better in almost every way, and nobody's heart should get broken over it.

I dunno, I just heard your version of "Smallpox Champion" and...oh my god. If the rest of what you recorded sounds like that tune, I can't imagine what about it wouldn't be up to anyone's standards. That's all - - certainly not looking to do verbal warfare with anyone here, least of all you, Steve.

N1ck wrote:...certainly not looking to do verbal warfare with anyone here, least of all you, Steve.

Steve's a pussy. You could take him.

El Protoolio wrote:

Boombats wrote:I'll tell you one reason- because they stop shows all the time, whenever the crowd starts dancing too wild.

I always hated "moshing" and "crowd surfing" and all that shit so to see Fugzai put a stop to it at their shows was very satisfying for me. I credit them for putting an end to that practice. Shows are so much more enjoyable without it. I know the nu metal and juggalo kids still do it but that's not my scene so I don't care.

I just wanted to watch a band as close to the stage as possible and "pits" always made that difficult. The selfish sweaty closeted jock punk primates swinging their arms and running in a circle up front could always go fuck themselves as far as I was concerned so seeing Fugazi put a stop to them was always inspiring.

Once I saw Ian tell some unreasonable ape to leave the show. They would not start playing again until he had left. Beautiful.

I've told parts of this story before, but the first time I saw Fugazi (I had gone to see the Make*Up) (in Peoria, IL), there were 2 dudes in this sea of people trying to start a pit. the band stopped "Bed for the Scraping" three times to get them to knock it off. three times! so Ian asked everyone who didn't want to hurt other people, to just sit down.

a thousand people sat the fuck down. everyone except for the two moshers.


they still try to mosh, but it's just embarrassing. "Bed for the Scraping" is glorious. the two dudes leave the show.

everyone stands up. the rock continues. my mind is blown forever.

Marsupialized wrote:god you are an idiot.

So ok, look at how the band operated. They did everything themselves, they were responsible for every aspect of the shows.
Say some dickhead gets dropped on their head and paralysed and decides to sue, or someone is injured by some asshole slamming into people and decides to sue...like has happened to bands and venues several times....hmmm....yeah, I can kinda see where they'd wanna minimize the children crowd surfing and jumping off shit since something like that could completely destroy everything they'd been working on for years and years
why the fuck you'd go to a Fugazi show and start crowd surfing and slamming into people is beyond me, they are pretty clear on the fact they don't want that shit going on yet every time you'd see all these people jumping around like idiots....then complain when they stop the show to ask people to calm the fuck down....I get pissed that people are jumping around at this band's show when they know damn well the band does not want people jumping around and they have to stop 5 times to ask people to chill the fuck out

Hey cunt.

I have never "moshed" at a Fugazi show (they're not fucking Slayer), and if you've seen me you can bet I don't crowd-surf either. I did help a kid get up on shoulders so his skinny ass could float around, this was at Vassar in 1992 I think, like when I was in high school. Ian stopped the show and proved my point.

My point was to explain to "||||||||||||||" one of the reasons Fugazi gets the "super-serious rep" he mentioned.

Stop looking at my taint.

Completely and utterly Not-Crap. Steady Diet was the first album I got by them, sometime in late junior high or early high school. They've been my favorite band since then, and definitely the band I most tried to emulate in my band in high school. I'm still very influenced by their whole sound, but I think I've gotten away from complete bitery.

Steady Diet and Kill Taker are my favorites. I think the Argument is the weakest of their albums. I haven't really listened to it since it came out, but I decided to give it another chance last month and found it a lot more listenable. I even entertained the idea of buying an Evens album when I was at the anarchist bookstore in Philly, despite having really disliked what I've heard of them so far. I figured I should give Ian a chance. But then I just bought a bunch of books instead. I did see Joe Lally doing his solo thing at the Knitting Factory over the winter. I was very unimpressed by the performance. I've heard Brendan is doing experimental soundtrack stuff or something like that, but I'd really like to hear something new from Guy.

Anyway, a big fat Not Crap.

slincire wrote:I did see Joe Lally doing his solo thing at the Knitting Factory over the winter. I was very unimpressed by the performance.

I was at that show as well. Joe Lally is something of a hero of mine as a bass player. I did actually enjoy most of the set, but then he started singing a really slow, shitty version of "If I Only Had a Brain" from Wizard of Oz as his closer. That one song was so crappy that it made the rest of the set crappy by association.

the Classical wrote:

Eating Noddemix wrote: One of the best of seven shows I was fortuante enough to see them play was the one at First Avenue with BLC and the Poster Children. The audience that night had utmost propriety and as a result the band was un-fucking-stoppable.

This was a great show, the kids hated, hated, hated, Brick Layer Cake.

Yeah, I guess I should have said the audience had utmost propriety during Fugazi. Maybe they were just antsy perhaps but whatever the reason they really didn't take a shine at all to Todd's set that night. Personally I thought it was cool. I said this in defense of BLC after the show and one my friends at the time said it just wasn't good music to be playing in a huge room jampacked with people. Well, maybe it's just me, but that particular qualm seems patently petty when you've got Fugazi on deck.

slincire wrote:
I did see Joe Lally doing his solo thing at the Knitting Factory over the winter. I was very unimpressed by the performance.
I was at that show as well. Joe Lally is something of a hero of mine as a bass player. I did actually enjoy most of the set, but then he started singing a really slow, shitty version of "If I Only Had a Brain" from Wizard of Oz as his closer. That one song was so crappy that it made the rest of the set crappy by association.

I don't remember the Wizard of Oz song, I think I might have left early. I don't remember it too well now, except fro the not liking it part, but I think I felt the songs were lacking in structure, they just didn't go anywhere. And some of the lyrical content just really turned me off. I remember he said something like, "This goes out to the living dead," something along those lines, real serious like, coming off sort of angry. And I just felt somewhat embarassed for him. And it was just him, another bassist, and a drummer. I'm all for experimental setups and performances, but I just don't think he pulled it off. To each his own though, it's good there are people into his stuff, I just couldn't get down with it. He is one of my favorite bassists though.