shevek wrote:I guess it is my problem if i am just so fucking burnt out on indie rock. I am sure there are great things out there, i'm just too jaded to hunt. So can we put this little paragraph to a fucking rest?

I thought it was a pretty insulting thing to write on a board that is populated by folks who are involved in and dedicated to making original and independent music...

Normally insulting stuff like that goes over pretty well here though.

The Code is Almighty wrote:You're kidding right? I threw up a little from that review.

nah man, that's exactaly the type of little blub those people, the ones who we would have to send out press kits and whatnot eat up
It's good

The Code is Almighty wrote:You're kidding right? I threw up a little from that review.

As well you should, it is over the top. not like I 'worked on it " or anything., marsup is right,it is exactly the kind of language business types wanna hear. otherwise it would be of little use to them i write that shit in my sleep.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the whole "earth shattering" and the "name 3 bands" thing. It seems to me the answers to this are somewhat personal and subjective. I think everyone on this board could name 3 such bands - you or I just might not agree on them.

Maybe you should post some samples of your music to give us a better idea of what you're talking about.

shevek wrote:Someone, tell me: has the U.S, thrown up more than say 3 bands (which i cant even name) over the past ten years whose work will survive? at all? as anything more than 'a good example of their type'?

Over the past ten years, from 1997-2007...(christ, was it that long ago...) well, let's see.

I think Liars will survive as intriguingly gutsy, chaotic, and great, even if their lyrics blow oraungutan dong.

I like TV on the Radio very much even though they're pretentious and even though David Sitek seems like a Grade-A "artsy" prick.

Of course, Angels of Light is brilliant, since Michael Gira is still going strong.

So that's three. Do they meet your specifications?

shevek wrote: i write that shit in my sleep.

I just shit in my sleep, no writing involved

As stated, it is all subjective.

alla that shit falls squarely under 'not my thing.' though has its own intrinsic, relative value.

oh, and if anyone else wants cute little blurbs written for their band for similar mercenary purposes, i'll gladly oblige if you give me a link.

and a beer.

and a beer and a shot, if it really sucks.

I'm a whore like that.

Questions like "what bands from the last 10 years will endure," while making fun silly message board fodder, are absolutely pointless if you're asking it seriously. It's even more pointless in the context of "i want to form a band that's so original and groundbreaking that it sounds like nothing that came before it." Don't get me wrong, originality is obviously a laudable goal, but originality for originality's sake usually leads to pretentious, dull-ass crap music.

"Originality" is something that appeals to the head. "Just completely rocking out" appeals to the crotch. I can appreciate both approaches, but go too far in one direction and your band is gonna be boring as hell. My favorite stuff toes the line between the two perfectly (see: DEVO, Brainiac, all that crap you know i jizz for already).

shevek, i again wish you luck in finding exactly what you want, but your screeds about how no one's out there now with staying power or whatever remind me of my old music theory professors in college, who were all about over-intellectualizing baroque period stuff and dismissing anything from the rock era as "too simple." Yawn. Simple can be genius. Look at the Ramones--do you really think they sat down before starting their band and discussed all the bullshit that music historians assigned to them after the fact? "Hrm, as we are tired of the dinosaur-arena-rock era, we should endeavour to strip rock music back down to its component pieces as an artistic endorsement of the primal, base nature that rock music came from?" Fuck no, they were a bunch of goofballs that converged at the same time and said "dude, wanna start a band?" "Yeah, ok, cool."

Don't overthink it too much, shevek. If you do, your band is doomed before you've found anyone. Just meet up with some people and go with the flow. Develop your manifesto once you see what you have to work with.

shevek wrote:oh, and if anyone else wants cute little blurbs written for their band for similar mercenary purposes, i'll gladly oblige if you give me a link.

and a beer.

and a beer and a shot, if it really sucks.

I'm a whore like that.

so do the other one I listed