chicken or the egg

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I can't believe people would still consider this to be at all debatable.

The egg clearly predates the chicken. Think reptiles.

That one's really a no-brainer.

What about the first chicken itself? When did it officially become a chicken? Take on the form of chickenness?

Was it a weird sperm, or a weird egg, or the combination of the two that introduced the mutation? Or did an existing animal get zapped with some x-rays from some sort of terrestrial impact, and grow some feathers and start clucking?

And with what degree of certainty can one say that this creation of the chicken did not include God as a catalyst? Greater than 50%?
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chicken or the egg

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toomanyhelicopters wrote:I can't believe people would still consider this to be at all debatable.

The egg clearly predates the chicken. Think reptiles.


I think the question is really: which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg.

What about the first chicken itself? When did it officially become a chicken? Take on the form of chickenness?

Was it a weird sperm, or a weird egg, or the combination of the two that introduced the mutation? Or did an existing animal get zapped with some x-rays from some sort of terrestrial impact, and grow some feathers and start clucking?


The first one. Whatever egg the First Chicken hatched from, that was the First Chicken Egg. Whatever animal laid that egg was a non-chicken.

And with what degree of certainty can one say that this creation of the chicken did not include God as a catalyst? Greater than 50%?


It would be irresponsible to hypothesize about factors about which we have no information. With what degree of certainty can one say that this creation did not include Leprechauns as a catalyst? With what certainty can one say it did not include Unicorns as a catalyst? Maybe the corpse of Amelia Earhart, reanimated in A.D. 20xx and sent back in time, had something to do with it. Each hypothesis has an equal amount of data supporting it, so I would give each one an equal probability.

(Actually, the last one is slightly more plausible, as we can be fairly certain that there is a corpse of Amelia Earhart.)

chicken or the egg

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toomanyhelicopters wrote:What about the first chicken itself? When did it officially become a chicken? Take on the form of chickenness?


The Red Junglefowl came before the chicken.

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I guess that came from some sort of ur-pheasant, and before that the Archaeopteryx, and somewhere before that came slime moulds.
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