Man I dunno about you but when I drive when I'm pissed off I'm hardly paying attention to shit.

dontfeartheringo wrote:What I was trying to do was get the driver and his truck off the road, so that my friend, who WASN'T driving, and who forgot to wear his "I am running from an eight year old DUI arrest" t-shirt, out of that guy's passenger seat.

Maybe I'm ignorant of the law. Did your friend's previous DUI arrest involve a homicide? Was he a repeat offender? It's hard to believe that the statute of limitations for DUI (a misdemeanor) would last for 8 years. It sounds like Georgia must have some of the strictest DUI laws in the country.

dontfeartheringo wrote:I OFFERED TO THROW HIM SOME MONEY FOR LEGAL FEES.

Offer more money.

dontfeartheringo wrote:I'm not the one who got the first DUI. I'm not the one who thought he could stay ahead of jumping bail IN THE SAME TOWN where he was arrested before. I'm not the one who thought it was a cracking good idea to jump into a car with a guy who was falling down drunk.

Pride goes before a fall.

To put the question of calling the cops on a drunk driver aside for a brief moment, one circumstance surrounding the whole escalation of anti-drunk driving legislation is the prevalence of bars situated in areas where you pretty much need a car to get to and from them.

Think of how many bars you know that are located in strip malls, on highway exits, etc. Unless their entire clientelle is just stopping in for one beer, bars in locations like that practically consitute an invitation to commit a crime.

Not saying such bars should be banned or anything, it's just weird.

Johnny C wrote:Man I dunno about you but when I drive when I'm pissed off I'm hardly paying attention to shit.

You sound dangerous.

And the argument that you can't try and get someone's keys because it just makes the drunk driver more reckless is (for lack of a better word) retarded.

It's a discretionary situation, you know? I know some people who would hand over their keys no sweat, but I know some people who would not be so conciliatory. Since the guy Ringo called the po-pos on sounds, from his response, like he falls into the latter category I can hardly blame him for exercising his judgment in this situation.

Mazec wrote:To put the question of calling the cops on a drunk driver aside for a brief moment, one circumstance surrounding the whole escalation of anti-drunk driving legislation is the prevalence of bars situated in areas where you pretty much need a car to get to and from them.

Think of how many bars you know that are located in strip malls, on highway exits, etc. Unless their entire clientelle is just stopping in for one beer, bars in locations like that practically consitute an invitation to commit a crime.

Not saying such bars should be banned or anything, it's just weird.

I've often wondered the same thing. What about the bars in rural areas, like on a country road? It's the only way home. Do the police in such areas only arrest the REALLY drunk people? I wonder if there is a certain level of acceptance, kind of like the unwritten "10 mph over the speed limit" rule.

The main strip of bars here is literally adjacent to the inner city. It's not a place you want to be walking home from at night after a couple of drinks.

Personally I think it's a taxi company conspiracy.

Johnny C wrote:Moreover, if someone I knew had a loaded shotgun and went out with it while drunk, I wouldn't hesitate to call the cops.

Neither would I, but I think that someone drunk driving on a Friday night is likelier to do more harm than a hypothetical drunken hunter.

Just because cars are familiar and common place doesn't mean that they are less dangerous.

You guys are really so scared about drunk driving that you are willing to give the cops unlimited powers to fight it, huh? Even going so far as to ignore the constitution....I see.
Change 'drunk driving' to 'terrorism' and 'cops' to 'the Bush administration'

Understand what I'm getting at here? Anyone?
It's fucking bullshit, it's s smoke screen and everyone has fallen for it hook line and sinker.
Arrest millions of people for a crime only committed by a few thousand, that makes sense to all of you. Ok.

and some of you demanding the police be given even more powers to arrest and detain people. Ok.

You do know you can't speak to a lawyer before taking a breath test, right?
Only after you take it and fail it....even though that's blatantly unconstitutional. In some states they don't allow jury trials on DUI charges. The checkpoints are exactly what they were talking about not being allowed when they created the 4th amendment.
Breathilyzers being legally allowed to be way fucking wrong, yet still admissable in court.
Sobriety tests set up for failure from the get go.
I can go on and on, but yes give the police more power. We must stop this drunk driving menace that dosen;t even really exist.