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Other research utilizing these low frequency waves is relevant to another national security issue, namely, communicating with submerged submarines and positive research results could point the way to approaches for greatly enhancing our nation's security. Present operational communication systems are effective, but have certain limitations that could be critical in wartime conditions. For this reason, the Navy continues to sponsor research to explore and evaluate alternative approaches to submarine communication. At this point in the research, the low frequency signals generated by HAARP are much weaker than signals generated by a conventional ground-based facility. Research to be conducted at HAARP in the years ahead will evaluate several proposed approaches for enhancing these signal levels. If this research is successful, there could be a new option for improving strategic submarine communication systems.

from this site which looks official(ish) to me http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen1.html

Big_dave's significant other works for the government. I envy her pension scheme and job security, also the hour of paid leaves every other Friday. Lord! Grant a poor dude a government temp job.

I talked with my fiancee's brother at great length about HAARP over Thanksgiving. He says most of their research has to do with satellite scintillation (Google SATSIN and HAARP). His Master's thesis (in progress) has to do with HAARP and satellite scintillation.

He (and a lot of people in the scientific community) credit a lot of the conspiracy theories to the lack of information being disseminated to the public about their activities. He says that is because HAARP isn't running 24/7. They only are operational during a 'campaign': a project that is being funded by the group running the experiments, not HAARP. Most of the campaigns are funded by the NSF, MIT, and quite a few schools (mostly their physics programs).

The source of most of the conspiracy theories come from Dr. Nick Begich. Most of the scientific community, and those involved with HAARP, dismiss his claims as completely baseless.

EDIT: Here's some high-quality photos of HAARP (further debunking the theory that HAARP is secretive): http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2 ... heme=light

I just found some more HAARP photos:

http://www.saketvora.com/gallery/main.p ... temId=7436

My (future) brother-in-law is in several of the photos. Pages 3-4 are the good stuff (control room, antenna array, etc).

dlayphoto wrote:I talked with my fiancee's brother at great length about HAARP over Thanksgiving. He says most of their research has to do with satellite scintillation (Google SATSIN and HAARP). His Master's thesis (in progress) has to do with HAARP and satellite scintillation.

He (and a lot of people in the scientific community) credit a lot of the conspiracy theories to the lack of information being disseminated to the public about their activities. He says that is because HAARP isn't running 24/7. They only are operational during a 'campaign': a project that is being funded by the group running the experiments, not HAARP. Most of the campaigns are funded by the NSF, MIT, and quite a few schools (mostly their physics programs).

The source of most of the conspiracy theories come from Dr. Nick Begich. Most of the scientific community, and those involved with HAARP, dismiss his claims as completely baseless.

EDIT: Here's some high-quality photos of HAARP (further debunking the theory that HAARP is secretive): http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2 ... heme=light

You're being a little defensive.

I bet YOU are in black ops!

lemur68 wrote:

dlayphoto wrote:I talked with my fiancee's brother at great length about HAARP over Thanksgiving. He says most of their research has to do with satellite scintillation (Google SATSIN and HAARP). His Master's thesis (in progress) has to do with HAARP and satellite scintillation.

He (and a lot of people in the scientific community) credit a lot of the conspiracy theories to the lack of information being disseminated to the public about their activities. He says that is because HAARP isn't running 24/7. They only are operational during a 'campaign': a project that is being funded by the group running the experiments, not HAARP. Most of the campaigns are funded by the NSF, MIT, and quite a few schools (mostly their physics programs).

The source of most of the conspiracy theories come from Dr. Nick Begich. Most of the scientific community, and those involved with HAARP, dismiss his claims as completely baseless.

EDIT: Here's some high-quality photos of HAARP (further debunking the theory that HAARP is secretive): http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2 ... heme=light

You're being a little defensive.

I bet YOU are in black ops!

No, I just have a lot of interest in HAARP because a) I'm a ham radio operator, b) a relative works there, c) I'm a science/tech nerd, and d) I listen to Coast to Coast AM way too much.

From what I've been told, it kind of sounds like his project is actually being funded by the government. Los Alamos has done something similar, but it required more than one detector and used different methods. Theirs had two detectors which record incoming and transmitted muons as they pass through a storage container effectively sandwiched in between. I think his is more software and statistical based, in that it either senses changes over time or deviations of experimental/statistical based distributions, not entirely sure on that last one though.

In short... his goal is to make a passive "x-ray" machine which can be transported easily. In most cases, it would need to be below an object to be effective, especially at sea level. It has definite uses as a surveillance device, I have a hard time believing it will really be effective at all though.

HAARP: Would you?

Rick Reuben wrote:Weird. All weekend I've read reports from people who claim to be able to monitor the energy from HAARP who said that there was an increase beginning middle of last week. Now this:

A strong earthquake shook Southern California on Tuesday, causing buildings to sway and triggering some precautionary evacuations. No immediate damage was reported.

The jolt was felt from Los Angeles to San Diego, and slightly in Las Vegas.

Preliminary information from the U.S. Geological Survey estimated the quake at magnitude 5.8, centered 29 miles east-southeast of downtown Los Angeles near Chino Hills in San Bernardino County.

Well, there you go. What more evidence do you need?