2207 wrote:

honeyisfunny wrote:Dindon, gjhardwick, my girlfriend and me just got assaulted for no reason about a minute from where we all live. Hardwick is all bloodied and my ladyfriend took a punch and had her bag stolen.

arseholes.

Hey, they didn't ask to be beaten up, I know honeyisfunny can be annoying but Hardwick didn't deserve a fat lip...

(I know, I couldn't resist)

gjhardwick wrote:where you moving to?

Marco Island

mattgringo wrote:

gjhardwick wrote:where you moving to?

Marco Island

was it the proximity to NG1 that swung it for you?

Skyscraper News wrote:Rarely for a residential development, Marco Island actually contains rooms for residents that do not have any windows and rely entirely on artificial light.

Sounds great!

Adam I wrote:

dontfeartheringo wrote:and my dignity

If one considers violence to be largely abhorrent, and those who rely upon violence or revel in violence to be largely scum, what dignity is there to be had in engaging them in violence?

If we agree that violence is no indication of worth, and that any power achieved by acts of violence, intimidation or cruelty is immoral and illegitimate, how can one then claim that is it dignified to achieve power by these means, whether or not you are the instigator?

I haven't read the most recent four pages of this thread yet, so excuse me if this has been covered. While I feel that Adam's position is laudable in the sense that non-violence is always the preferable route, I think that it is entirely impractical. People absolutely should protect the things that are important to them. This isn't some Robin Hood farce we're talking about here; it's a much more complicated world than just rich/poor/good/evil. There is a quality spectrum to a given individual's perception of his or her right to anything. In this case, I believe that most would agree that if person A owns a wallet, and person B demands that wallet for no other reason than he represents some threat to person A in the absence of the transaction of said wallet, person A would not be attempting to "achieve power" over person B by refusing to hand it over. The wallet symbolizes an extension of A's self, having been selected from many other wallets and containing documents and items that validate him as a niched member of the society. I believe that such an object is worth fighting for, but certainly not dying for. It's common sense. We ARE still animals, I believe.

Here's an update on the 'hoodie' attack and bag snatch mentioned a few posts ago.

My girlfriend got her bag and her purse back as explained.

She tried to phone the Police to tell them about it but we weren't given a crime number so the person she spoke to couldn't reference the incident.
We waited for the Police to come and take a statement from her and eventually the "five-o" copper called at 10.30 pm. He's either 12 hours late or we got confused and he meant PM all along. Doesn't matter.

Anyway, my housemate said to the policeman that she had gone home and that also she had a stroke of good fortune and had recovered her bag. He also suggested that they call her at home instead of going round there because, as explained by matt and others previously, having a police car outside your house isn't good for neighbourhood relations sometimes and obviously someone on her road had something to do with the incident so they'd know she'd gone to the Police.

So, the policeman calls up my girlfriend and tells her he knows she got the bag back and that he now thinks she has been lying to him. She explained what happened, that a neighbour had got it back for her and that's enough for her and that she doesn't know who the person is who helped her but she's grateful etc.
Obviously, she has more of an idea about it than that but the best way to show gratitude to someone who helped you is probably not to sent the Police to their house when they might be a bit 'dodgy' in the first place.

The Policeman keeps having a go at her and says he's coming round. My g/f says she would prefer to go to the station in the morning as she's about to go to bed (it's 11.30pm by now). His response to this was

"No you're not going to bed"

So he came round to her house in a police car. He basically gave her a load of shit and upset her and said she'd lied and she knew more than she was saying and he would get the guy who got the bag back. My g/f's housemate piped up and said
"Erm... what about getting the 2 guys who punched her in the face and stole it?"
And he shrugged it off as if to say he's not bothered about that anymore.

My g/f pointed out that she tried to tell them she'd found her bag but because they hadn't taken a statement or even registered the crime then she couldn't report it. He continued to get in her face and accuse her of lying.

And get this, he still didn't take a statement. So the crime is still not on their system or even being looked into but yet her receiving her own bag back is being looked into.

I'm saying she should complain to the Police officially.

Double post

honeyisfunny wrote:The UK police are complete twats

They are a bunch alright. You folk have my sympathies for what you went through and are now being put through by this feckless polis.

You'd think they would be happy at not having to do anything to 'solve' this case but no, they're upset because it wasn't solved in their way. What they're doing now is harrassment, an activity that the majority of British police I've come across seem to revel in.

UK Police: Crap, no waffles.

That's really terrible behaviour on behalf of the police you are describing. Outside of the 'judgement call' nature of pretty much everything you describe they're doing (and not doing), it contravenes what the Independent Police Complaints Commission outline about expected Police behaviour here - http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/index/complaints ... plaint.htm

Anyway, really sorry to hear that this has been going on Chris. Maybe see you this weekend - fizzypop (or something similar) will be on me

dammit - double post, sorry