As it says on the tin. Dante networks are great, but life would be SO much easier if I could find some USB/Thunderbolt/FireWire/etc. to Dante adapters, and all I can find are 2x2 or 1x1, not something that'll give me, say, 32 channels which is what I want.

Help!

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... lsrc=aw.ds

Or you can fo straight to the source

https://www.audinate.com/products/dante ... s?lang=eng

maybe the cheapest option

https://tascam.com/us/category/Dante

Google is cool

Let me clarify: not looking for interfaces or Focusrite RedNet stuff. That negates the whole point of the post.

I just want USB, Thunderbolt, S/PDIF, ADAT, and/or Firewire jacks on one end, Cat 6 on the other, and my interfaces which I've already paid for (and maybe other stuff, like summing boxes, that don't have Dante cards available) showing up in Dante Controller.

No more, no less.

No mic preamps.
No DACs.
No audio interfaces. I have plenty of channels already.
No 2 in/2 out stuff which is all I see on Audinate's site.
No monitoring shit.
No completely redundant $4K 2U rackmount networking shit.

Just the bare minimum to stably and reliably adapt 24-32 channels legacy protocols to Dante and THAT'S IT.

V sorry if I wasn't clear. And if Google was that cool, I wouldn't be here.

I was thinking maybe some computer equipment outside the pro audio marketing realm someone here might have had luck with?

Sam_Scholten wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:52 am Let me clarify: not looking for interfaces or Focusrite RedNet stuff. That negates the whole point of the post.

I just want USB, Thunderbolt, S/PDIF, ADAT, and/or Firewire jacks on one end, Cat 6 on the other, and my interfaces which I've already paid for (and maybe other stuff, like summing boxes, that don't have Dante cards available) showing up in Dante Controller.

No more, no less.

No mic preamps.
No DACs.
No audio interfaces. I have plenty of channels already.
No 2 in/2 out stuff which is all I see on Audinate's site.
No monitoring shit.
No completely redundant $4K 2U rackmount networking shit.

Just the bare minimum to stably and reliably adapt 24-32 channels legacy protocols to Dante and THAT'S IT.

V sorry if I wasn't clear. And if Google was that cool, I wouldn't be here.

I was thinking maybe some computer equipment outside the pro audio marketing realm someone here might have had luck with?

I'm pretty sure that does not exist and that Dante doesn't work that way. There are ADAT to Dante interfaces boxes (look at RME) SPDIF, AES too. You will not find a firewire or usb to Dante interface.

I did some more checking since it has been a while and found that Dante Virtual Soundcard does support ASIO devices in Windows. Not sure about Core (firewire) with Mac. You may be able to Switch your DAW Audio engine to Dante VS and then in the Dante controller choose and rout your ASIO/maybe Core Audio devices though to your DAW with no other devices needed. This does increase the latency of the Dante Connection by the factor of the latency of the ASIO/other device, but it might work. I'll have to check when I get home cause there are no external (USB, other) devices connected to your Dante Network here. I'll report my findings. If it works like I think it does, You might not need any new hardware.

Sorry for all the posting. Looks like Dante Via is the application you want. Limited to 16 ch of transmission unlike the 64 of DVS, but it supports ASIO/Core audio usb and firewire devices. It's like $60.

If it works as advertised, you don't need other hardware as long as your network is tight.

https://www.audinate.com/products/software/dante-via

Edit: I think it will be problematic due to the 10ms of Latency Via adds, plus any latency from your Audio Card Buffer settings, plus any network latency (minimal). It would probably "Work" but it might not be practical. It's why Dante specific IO exists, to keep all this interface latency at a minimum. Anyway, I can think of a few ways I could use it for Streaming stuff so I might give it a try.

Kniferide wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:52 pm Sorry for all the posting. Looks like Dante Via is the application you want. Limited to 16 ch of transmission unlike the 64 of DVS, but it supports ASIO/Core audio usb and firewire devices. It's like $60.

If it works as advertised, you don't need other hardware as long as your network is tight.

https://www.audinate.com/products/software/dante-via

Edit: I think it will be problematic due to the 10ms of Latency Via adds, plus any latency from your Audio Card Buffer settings, plus any network latency (minimal). It would probably "Work" but it might not be practical. It's why Dante specific IO exists, to keep all this interface latency at a minimum. Anyway, I can think of a few ways I could use it for Streaming stuff so I might give it a try.

Much appreciated-- I think this is the way, limitations being using one non-Dante device at a time until I get a handle on the hit it causes.

Latency is dialed up pretty far anyways right now for stability and we have latency comp pretty well handled-- it just affects how we handle punch-ins and printing analog stuff, from a practical standpoint.

Once again, big thanks for looking into this for me. Had a hunch I just needed to look a little differently.

Sam_Scholten wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:33 pm Much appreciated-- I think this is the way, limitations being using one non-Dante device at a time until I get a handle on the hit it causes.

Latency is dialed up pretty far anyways right now for stability and we have latency comp pretty well handled-- it just affects how we handle punch-ins and printing analog stuff, from a practical standpoint.

Are you just wanting to use Dante as your way into your DAW or are there larger sharing audio over network concerns? If you aren't sending Audio to remote devices or interfacing with other hardware that is Dante enabled, it's probably just putting a hat on a hat. What's the application you are going for? The downside of using Via is that it is used to inject audio into the Dante network at a software level where DVS and Dante enabled hardware does it at the hardware layer, so basically it's just getting into the middle, adding timing issues that usually isn't an issue over Dante the old school way. Good for sending a mix out of Protools to say, a Zoom call, or across the hall to a camera switch op where Delays can be as long as what ever as long as they come together in the fold. For real time tracking/monitoring I see Via being a pain in the ass. Still, I want to check it out.

bishopdante wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:09 pm

Sam_Scholten wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:52 am Let me clarify: not looking for interfaces or Focusrite RedNet stuff. That negates the whole point of the post.

I just want USB, Thunderbolt, S/PDIF, ADAT, and/or Firewire jacks on one end, Cat 6 on the other, and my interfaces which I've already paid for (and maybe other stuff, like summing boxes, that don't have Dante cards available) showing up in Dante Controller.

No more, no less.

No mic preamps.
No DACs.
No audio interfaces. I have plenty of channels already.
No 2 in/2 out stuff which is all I see on Audinate's site.
No monitoring shit.
No completely redundant $4K 2U rackmount networking shit.

Just the bare minimum to stably and reliably adapt 24-32 channels legacy protocols to Dante and THAT'S IT.

V sorry if I wasn't clear. And if Google was that cool, I wouldn't be here.

I was thinking maybe some computer equipment outside the pro audio marketing realm someone here might have had luck with?

Yes, that adapter is indeed called a computer, I believe. One with audinate's own-brand PCI card fitted to it.

MacOS / core audio can do the job fine, just set up an aggregate device representing your existing pile of units in audio midi setup and off you go.

Yeah, that's sort of why I was asking what his intentions were. No reason to go firewire-Dante-DaW thru some device or VIA. Just use your interface as usual and use dante to inject into network for remote sharing. You aren't going to find a thing you plug your digi 002 into that just makes it work as a dante io, aside from... as Bdante said a Dante equipt computer system. Using VIA to translate your FW or USB interface to Dante to talk to a DAW is building middlemen.

Kniferide wrote:Are you just wanting to use Dante as your way into your DAW or are there larger sharing audio over network concerns? If you aren't sending Audio to remote devices or interfacing with other hardware that is Dante enabled, it's probably just putting a hat on a hat. What's the application you are going for? The downside of using Via is that it is used to inject audio into the Dante network at a software level where DVS and Dante enabled hardware does it at the hardware layer, so basically it's just getting into the middle, adding timing issues that usually isn't an issue over Dante the old school way. Good for sending a mix out of Protools to say, a Zoom call, or across the hall to a camera switch op where Delays can be as long as what ever as long as they come together in the fold. For real time tracking/monitoring I see Via being a pain in the ass. Still, I want to check it out.

What prompted this:

We have a Dante-based digital studio, with interfaces in various rooms, headphone monitoring, etc. all on the network. It's a great system. Unfortunately, our analog desk has been commandeered into monitoring duty, and long story short, it's practically impossible to switch it over for mix summing and do all the recalls to get it back to monitoring for the next session.

So, we're stuck in the box, at least until we have the budget to get a summing mixer online somehow.

So I saw the SSL Big Six has USB connectivity and I thought, "Man, wouldn't it be awesome to kick out some Dante channels to one of these and back. Or if we go with a different summing mixer, my RME is collecting dust and I'd love to put it to use instead of having to sell and shell for another Dante interface. It's just ones and zeros anyway, why can't I find a simple Dante bridge?"

Because capitalism obviously, but you'd think capitalism would allow an outboard Dante bridge for a few hundred that would get legacy gear online.