re: geiginni's classical music discussion & questions answered & janeway

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Geiginni wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:49 pm Emerson String Quartet: particularly their Shostakovich
lol shostakovich is how wfmt gets the led out, they're playing him twice as much as schubert these days

and quality in timing and performance is tough like only jascha heifetz plays pagannini with good nuance but not enough to get me off because flexing technique too easily becomes the sound of practicing scales (like that christian auguliera voice thing) and sounds more like rehearsal than impactful.. for consistency in desired listening effect rely on the academy of st. martin in the fields, they usually play little women soundtrack sounding stuff like between christmas and spring those horns

re: geiginni's thread of classyical music

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too many singers focus on their own stupid thang instead of nailing it, hitting the notes for us like pianos keys we can't reach because they're on top of the fridge next to the cookies

the best is whitney houston signing the national anthem, reaching those notes for us sounding herself

whew!

but my favorite is always marvin gaye at the basketball game with that rhythm machine so you can hear what he does between beats, that's music..

omg i haven't listened to this in five years im so excited i only get one chance to hear this again for the first time in years and then watch that ronald movie

Re: re: geiginni's classical music discussion & questions answered & janeway

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janeway wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:38 am
Geiginni wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:49 pm Emerson String Quartet: particularly their Shostakovich
lol shostakovich is how wfmt gets the led out, they're playing him twice as much as schubert these days
I think Shosty carries a lot of relevance today. His music does such a great job of expressing the absurdity of bureaucratic systems and the horror when those systems abandon their humanity, the systems George Carlin describes as: "...a group of people with a 'common purpose'. 'Cause pretty soon they have little hats. And armbands...."

Just examples like this:






Such an uncomfortable mix of pathos, horror and absurd humor at once!
and quality in timing and performance is tough like only jascha heifetz plays pagannini with good nuance but not enough to get me off because flexing technique too easily becomes the sound of practicing scales (like that christian auguliera voice thing) and sounds more like rehearsal than impactful..


If you're listening to Paganini you should probably expect to be enjoying technical fluff that has little to offer in the way of profound meaning you might expect from other composers. I enjoy hearing the showcase of spiccato, double and triple stops, harmonics and octave leaps too, because it's fun, but it's not quite the same thing as listening to the Grosse Fuge, or Schubert's String Quintet.
for consistency in desired listening effect rely on the academy of st. martin in the fields, they usually play little women soundtrack sounding stuff like between christmas and spring those horns
They've done decent work and released some good recordings over the past 40+ years, but all the same, the Academy of Ancient Music under Christopher Hogwood has done more interesting stuff over the past 20 years.

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Geiginni wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:33 pmHis music does such a great job of expressing the absurdity of bureaucratic systems and the horror when those systems abandon their humanity
Interested in hearing about this: In what way do you think the music does this? Any particular piece as an example?

If you're listening to Paganini you should probably expect to be enjoying technical fluff that has little to offer in the way of profound meaning you might expect from other composers. I enjoy hearing the showcase of spiccato, double and triple stops, harmonics and octave leaps too, because it's fun, but it's not quite the same thing as listening to the Grosse Fuge, or Schubert's String Quintet.
Hm yeah, fun is probably what I would think about. Caprice 24 is fun and it's just impeccably composed. With every variation I'm like "yeah, that's it". I feel that exact way about the first movement of Beethoven's 6th as well... but there's definitely something "more" there.
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kokorodoko wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:53 pm
Geiginni wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:33 pmHis music does such a great job of expressing the absurdity of bureaucratic systems and the horror when those systems abandon their humanity
Interested in hearing about this: In what way do you think the music does this? Any particular piece as an example?
I think the last movement of the 9th Symphony above is a good example. The introduction of the closing theme and buildup has a real "back to the same old shit" feel after the celebration of the triumph over fascism has taken place, now its time to once again tighten the noose around our own people, lest they get a little too used to the freedom they enjoyed while battling fascists. It's back to the lather, rinse, repeat pattern of rooting out the creeping bourgeois influences and having control. "Dance when we say dance, faster, like the others! Dance for us, for the glory of the state, comrade!

Re: Geiginni's Classical Music Discussion & Questions Answered

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I don't have a question, just thought this thread should be brought back to the frontpage.

Here's some Schubert on classical guitar, nicely performed. I have a like/dislike relationship with that particular piece (love/hate would be way too strong). The composition is a really nice and interesting sounding one, but at the same time there are so many awfully tasteless and cheesy renditions... it makes me feel unwell.

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