From the little bit of the "Big Picture..." that I have accidentally caught?pldms wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:55 am If Jada had slapped him this would all be much simpler, and many columnist would have something better to do.
Hahahahahaha.numberthirty wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:08 pmFrom the little bit of the "Big Picture..." that I have accidentally caught?pldms wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:55 am If Jada had slapped him this would all be much simpler, and many columnist would have something better to do.
She does not roll that way. She is apparently the "Hurt 'Em Mentally..." type.
I don't know a lot about her, but isn't she a "target" the same way Gwyneth Paltrow and Tom Cruise are?ChudFusk wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:38 am But Jada is a constant target for harassment, including from Chris Rock,
When all else fails, race.ChudFusk wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:38 amYou tell me.andyman wrote:So, hitting people is ok?
You gonna tell that man that hitting the racist was not OK?
Minstrel shows were once "just a joke." Change doesn't happen until people are too scared not to change, and if all it takes is a slap then I'd say it's a slap well spent. For the record, I don't think women need protection from words, or that violence is always the solution to hurt feelings. But Jada is a constant target for harassment, including from Chris Rock, and this was the biggest platform on which Will Smith could have made it clear not to fuck with her any more. Yes he should have done that with words, but bullies rarely respond to reason.
Here's another black person's perspective on this, which some of you need to hear because I'm definitely seeing a culturally uhmm *narrow* perspective.
Aaron Davis - VIOLENCE, BULLYING AND BEING BLACK IN AMERICA
Yeah, I don't buy the "This is how we do it" line either. That kind of reasoning can be used to excuse any kind of behavior that otherwise ought not be accepted or tolerated.losthighway wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:57 am ^ Man, that shit gets complicated. As I read one guy's take I felt a little skeptical that anyone would describe Smith's reaction as the "black" thing to do. Then I saw all of the white guys commenting the same on the guy's post, which doesn't work very well.
I still think it gets tricky when someone sources one POC take on something. I can imagine a second voice countering "Maybe in your house, not mine" etc.
I will say cultural explanations for violence seem to take away some individual agency.
This explains to me why this kind of event becomes a phenomenon. It's a pop culture exercise in ethics, social science etc.
How to say you're racist without saying you're racisternietaintsniffer wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:32 amWhen all else fails, race.ChudFusk wrote: Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:38 amYou tell me.andyman wrote:So, hitting people is ok?
You gonna tell that man that hitting the racist was not OK?
Minstrel shows were once "just a joke." Change doesn't happen until people are too scared not to change, and if all it takes is a slap then I'd say it's a slap well spent. For the record, I don't think women need protection from words, or that violence is always the solution to hurt feelings. But Jada is a constant target for harassment, including from Chris Rock, and this was the biggest platform on which Will Smith could have made it clear not to fuck with her any more. Yes he should have done that with words, but bullies rarely respond to reason.
Here's another black person's perspective on this, which some of you need to hear because I'm definitely seeing a culturally uhmm *narrow* perspective.
Aaron Davis - VIOLENCE, BULLYING AND BEING BLACK IN AMERICA
You win.
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