It's been captivating to hear it all laid out in detail. So much nefarious incompetence. Or is it incompetent nefariousness. There were a lot of moderate and conservative bureaucrats whose general sense of propriety kept us off the brink.

Has any of this been effective, even as political theater? Just anecdotally, I'm not seeing a lot of it catch on social media. Even the normie libs I know who were constantly posting about Mueller or whatever seem to be largely ignoring it. Honestly feels Benghazi was treated as a bigger story, but maybe I'm just less exposed to cable news now than I was then.

Clyde wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:28 pm Has any of this been effective, even as political theater? Just anecdotally, I'm not seeing a lot of it catch on social media. Even the normie libs I know who were constantly posting about Mueller or whatever seem to be largely ignoring it. Honestly feels Benghazi was treated as a bigger story, but maybe I'm just less exposed to cable news now than I was then.

*Local* TV networks in Chicago are interrupting their regularly scheduled programming to cover each hearing, along with the extensive coverage on the cable news networks, even including Fox News. If you're watching TV when one of the hearings is on, it can be difficult to avoid.

It's hard to know at this point if they will end up making a difference. That being said, Jeffrey Clark's house (one of the assistant attorneys general at the time) was raided by the DOJ last week, apparently as a result of the hearings. So it seems that some action, other than just the hearings, is taking place.

I'm starting to think that some of the folks that were involved are going to get criminally indicted. I still don't think Trump will; he really, really tried to do (and probably did) illegal things, but either others did them on his behalf and/or stopped him from doing so.

I think the poll workers in Georgia who were slandered by Giuliani, etc. should sue them for every penny that they are worth in civil court.

Eyes down for this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/p ... aring.html

^ I wonder if they managed to get Cipollone to agree to testify.

I really hope that voting machine company takes Ghouliani for every cent his America's-Bullshit-Mayor ass has.

he really, really tried to do (and probably did) illegal things, but either others did them on his behalf and/or stopped him from doing so.

It seems Trump's mob boss talk gives him immunity. Trevor Noah mocks Trump for being caught saying things like "if you don't do this, we can't be friends any more".

Ha ha, what a juvenile threat. Yes, or else maybe a serious threat phrased in such a way that he can't be prosecuted for it. Not so ha ha.

^ Astute observation/comparison w/ mobsters.

Mobsters rarely were convicted of the most evil things they were suspected of doing… only things like tax evasion and mail fraud.

Now this is being reported today: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/27/politics ... index.html

Eastman and Clark seem primed to take the fall. Possibly also some politicians involved in arranging fake electors.

Once they've gotten to the "The Feds are in your house" stage of the investigation, you are already fucked.