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kokorodoko in another thread wrote:my mom is great
Sometimes there's a thing that you've been casually saying to yourself in your head, but when you put it down on paper it looks different.

It's still true what I wrote, BUT my mom also hit me several times when I was small, she didn't understand at all what I went through in my teens nor even seemed to make the attempt, and made me feel very betrayed at the time. I haven't really worked through these things, either on my own or with her. It would probably go well if I tried to, but it makes you wonder - am I too quick to forgive?
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kokorodoko wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:12 am It's still true what I wrote, BUT my mom also hit me several times when I was small, she didn't understand at all what I went through in my teens nor even seemed to make the attempt, and made me feel very betrayed at the time. I haven't really worked through these things, either on my own or with her. It would probably go well if I tried to, but it makes you wonder - am I too quick to forgive?
My dad sucked. I like to think of my childhood as pretty idyllic, but homelife was often a chore. He was a mean drunk; hit his wife, his kids, embarrassed his kids, didn't understand me at all, and constantly at odds. On the other side of the token he bought my first drum kit and was generally supportive of my creative endeavors even though he didn't get it. We all had expensive educations, great clothes, nice vacations, there was always food on the table, but, like, how your dad should be one of your best friends I just didn't have that. Your best friend wouldn't throw your mom down a flight of stairs, and that's all I could see whenever I looked at him.

As we both grew older our relationship changed sorta. We weren't butting heads for one thing, but that was mostly because of a physical distance. He also told me that he tried his best/did the best he could with what he knew & believed and I took him at his word. After his third heart attack left him unconscious and in a coma my mom and my siblings had to make a decision to keep him him breathing or let him go. We chose the latter and surrounded his hospital bed as he slipped away. My sister was inconsolable. I didn't feel much aside from confusion about why I wasn't feeling one way or another.

I forgave my dad a long time ago, but if you can excuse the cliché, I haven't forgotten, and the echoes of domestic violence and embarrassments are always a part of me. Sometimes I dip into the momness & dadness thread and get a little envious about all of these beautiful children being raised by mindful, caring, friendly, and progressive parents. Sometimes I think about how I would fare as a parent.

Wishing the best for both of you.
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rsmurphy wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 2:43 pmSometimes I think about how I would fare as a parent.
Hah. When I imagine myself as a parent - if you've seen the show Californication - I'm Hank Moody but incel. Terrible.

I'm sorry 'bout your dad. It's situations like yours I had in mind when writing the other post, 'cause it's really sad that cases like that (and worse) are so common, when it should and could be the other way around. Doesn't even need to be best friends, just people who don't, as you say, suck.

Biggest issue with my mom has always been her temper (gotten better over the years). Getting set off and escalating over innocuous things and then refusing to let go so you give up even when you know you're right 'cause it's too much of a hassle. Probably influenced my own trait of simultaneous conflict-aversion and explosive anger.

Most of the time she's been kind and I like her in a lot of ways, but episodes like those mentioned leave their mark, especially when they happen at critical periods.

Either way, thank you for sharing and offering support.
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^ It's interesting reading the above posts from FM randy and FM kokorodoko about family issues/abuse, and then hearing FM seby's lecture, which alludes briefly on how "beating your wife" was not condemned by a significant portion of the population 40-50 years ago.

Fuck, I was probably an overt dick to my kids at some point when they were really young and "manhandled" them a bit too much - i.e., took hold of them and yelled at them, though never hit them. It took my wife to tell me to knock that shit off to get me to stop. I don't think my kids remember me being a dick at this point, but shit, if they confronted me about it, I'd be so fucking ashamed. And deservedly so.
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