penningtron wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 6:41 am A somewhat guilty pleasure of my partner. I get it: if you squint you can kind of hear MBV or Hum or whatever, but it's still pretty of its time with the drop tuning cheese grater guitar and piccolo snare. Also the excessive breathing into the mic. That Chino dude has some decent side projects I can tolerate but still going with Crap here.

losthighway wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 6:54 am Surprised to see any positive notes on these guys around here. I abashedly call them not crap, in spite of some obvious signifiers that would cause anyone around here to roll their eyes.

All said the band has more in common with Failure, Hum and Depeche Mode than Korn or Limp Bizkit. When ever I dig into their more recent stuff it has a surprising amount of enjoyable, heavy, post metal riffage and the requisite breathy crooning- even if it's not as bold or as iconic as Around the Fur. Their debut reads like some ghetto Californian kids with some big feelings hiding in their Jnco jeans.

tallchris wrote: Thu May 04, 2023 5:20 pm Okay, eight posts in a row in a single thread/subject might be a new record for ya #30!