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gaetano dimita wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:44 pm Trite, self-important and overdone satire movies about the super-rich being horrible people. I'm thinking Parasite, Triangle of Sadness and Saltburn . Those films make a point of targeting no one in particular, therefore they feel safe and stupid, rather than poignant and clever as good satire should be, IMHO.
I liked all of those enough. Triangle the most, then Saltburn, then Parasite. The Menu was fucking dumb, though.
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enframed wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:04 pm
gaetano dimita wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:44 pm Trite, self-important and overdone satire movies about the super-rich being horrible people. I'm thinking Parasite, Triangle of Sadness and Saltburn . Those films make a point of targeting no one in particular, therefore they feel safe and stupid, rather than poignant and clever as good satire should be, IMHO.
I liked all of those enough. Triangle the most, then Saltburn, then Parasite. The Menu was fucking dumb, though.
I agree about The Menu. I enjoyed Parasite in part because the setting was unfamiliar to me. If the events had occurred in, say, Los Angeles, I don't think it would have seemed as interesting.
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gaetano dimita wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:44 pm Trite, self-important and overdone satire movies about the super-rich being horrible people. I'm thinking Parasite, Triangle of Sadness and Saltburn . Those films make a point of targeting no one in particular, therefore they feel safe and stupid, rather than poignant and clever as good satire should be, IMHO.
This is really interesting to me. It makes me wonder if film and fiction with a heavy class lens had more satiric bite in the last century and/or English setting more than U.S. There once was the "comedy of manners" kind of thing . Like, I'm enough of a house cat to get a good chuckle out of Duke So and So getting dressed down by a plucky staff member or whatever, but I suppose it doesn't click in the same way (I guess if Julie Andrews did it in two films over a half century ago it doesn't). So Parasite is an update of the upstairs, downstairs thing but in Korea with bloody violence, but still safe? Hmmm. Maybe.

I think Jojo Rabbit had something to it as it updates the whole Nazis are bad thing with, "yeah but how do we get sucked into some shit like Nazis."

What about something like Succession?

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I don't think it's fair to bag Radiohead for calling a song Identikit and they probably expected listeners to know what it referred to, but these days it seems like Radiohead are more like the band most likely to be called massively overrated rather than actually talked about by anyone.

But the number of people who seem to think that Prince playing some reheated Hendrix A minor pentatonic bullshit over My Guitar Gently Weeps is the greatest feat of musicianship ever witnessed, and calling him the greatest multi-instrumentalist in pop history while guys like Stevie Wonder are still kicking, I find it quite baffling.

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Anthony Flack wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:38 am I don't think it's fair to bag Radiohead for calling a song Identikit and they probably expected listeners to know what it referred to, but these days it seems like Radiohead are more like the band most likely to be called massively overrated rather than actually talked about by anyone.
Yeah, Radiohead haven't had massive hype since like 2007, and the main dudes have mostly moved on to The Smile which largely function like an established indie band.
But the number of people who seem to think that Prince playing some reheated Hendrix A minor pentatonic bullshit over My Guitar Gently Weeps is the greatest feat of musicianship ever witnessed, and calling him the greatest multi-instrumentalist in pop history while guys like Stevie Wonder are still kicking, I find it quite baffling.
Yeah, that same solo could have conceivably been played by any blueshammer rando and no one would give a shit. But Prince was a 'good entertainer', no doubt.
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