A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:39 am

Gramsci wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:58 am True. But the system we live in gives them every incentive to keep the system functioning as it is. It tells them they succeeded because of their hard work and they are being rewarded for it. The entire culture pumps this out 24/7.

Something I’ve also noticed with capital L liberals, basically centrist, is they really see no alternative. Things like taxing wealth or genuine changes to capitalism seem just invisible.

It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

No sympathy for any of it. So there's a tough decision and your life will be harder, for a greater good. Well boo fucking hoo. You just do it.

Or you don't - fine - but then you've waived your rights come any reckoning.

Cunts.

Yeah, I’m just trying to come up with reasons for people to not murder people.

Honestly, gods bless the fucking NHS in the Uk. Are there big problems, yes. Are they resolvable, yes. One of Britain’s most redeeming achievements is locking in a society wide consensus of “over my dead body” regarding moving to a paid insurance based model. Even Thatcher didn’t privatise it. I think even the Conservatives know that even if they disagree on ideological grounds in practically private, insurance based healthcare is dysfunctional and bad economics.

I’ve been undergoing some of the most expensive medical treatments beyond hard organ transplants and money has never been mentioned. The one time I was asked if I had private insurance I asked my doctor what the difference would be. He laughed and said “we’d be sitting in a room upstairs with more plants”.

In the UK private insurance will speed up access to primary care but the second it gets serious they bounce you back into the NHS.

The US system, which I studied at university, is a choice. Your politicians are stooges to the medical insurance industry.

Spanish health care system must be the best thing we have here in this country. One of my coworkers has a VERY weird sickness, has to take some ultra expensive pills (10.000 € PER MONTH). Never had to worry about it.

The US is uniquely fucked compared to other western countries. I don't know if a place like Russia has a national healthcare system, but it's probably no worse than here.

Any American with a cancer diagnosis knows this was self-defense.

The NYPD is offering a $10k reward.

Over half of Americans have at least $10k in medical debt.

It barely breaks even to give a shit about this guy.

Krev wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:03 pm The US is uniquely fucked compared to other western countries. I don't know if a place like Russia has a national healthcare system, but it's probably no worse than here.

Cuba has a significantly better healthcare system than the US.

I lived in Brazil four years and used the public SUS system the whole time. It gets a lot more complicated in big cities but we had zero problems in a smaller town. The government are very good at preventative care, public health education and vaccination programs. Brazil’s AIDS prevention program was an astonishing success. The most successful poverty reduction program Bolsa Familia which was direct cash payments to mothers required children to be fully vaccinated and attended regular doctors checkups. It both stimulated the economy and reduced healthcare costs down the line.

Most of our friends had private plans but they saw the same doctors as us at the local SUS clinic.

The US is uniquely fucked.

Bernie is right.

glee is just one step removed from wishing you had killed him yourself. as i have aged, i am more aware of my own ability to do evil and so i'm trying to resist it.
if you are a powerless kid, glee does not evoke such ethical dilemmas. it's easy to cheer when other people are doing the dirty work.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:38 am That said, crazy-ass vigilante behavior is never a great sign. Whether that's assassinating this dude or bombing an abortion clinic or blowing up a block in Oklahoma City

False equivalency. Bombing clinics and public offices kills innocent civilians, and was motivated by fear and hatred. I don’t know what this assassin’s motivation was but he didn’t kill anyone innocent.

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: glee is just one step removed from wishing you had killed him yourself.

If I didn’t have a good life, I would have done something like this a long time ago. I’m glad I didn’t do it but I’m grateful that someone did and I hope we see more actions like this, assuming it was done for a good reason.

Everyone has assumed this was done as punishment for being a corporate ghoul, but it’s entirely possible that he fucked with the wrong person within his own socioeconomic level and got got for something petty or meaningless to us. I know I don’t have access to a pistol let alone a silencer, and I don’t know where to hire a professional hit man, but I bet this guy’s associates do.

OP needs to fix the poll questions because they are contradictory and don’t make sense.

ChudFusk wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:00 pm

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:38 am That said, crazy-ass vigilante behavior is never a great sign. Whether that's assassinating this dude or bombing an abortion clinic or blowing up a block in Oklahoma City

False equivalency. Bombing clinics and public offices kills innocent civilians, and was motivated by fear and hatred. I don’t know what this assassin’s motivation was but he didn’t kill anyone innocent.

hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: glee is just one step removed from wishing you had killed him yourself.

If I didn’t have a good life, I would have done something like this a long time ago. I’m glad I didn’t do it but I’m grateful that someone did and I hope we see more actions like this, assuming it was done for a good reason.

ok you just made a good case for living a good life. bad lives produces worse choices.
death is not the answer.

Hex wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:56 pm It seems pretty clear to me from the context of saying he’s grateful someone else did it, that he’s glad he himself didn’t do it because it would have negatively affected his life, not because it was inherently a “bad” choice.

Exactly. When one goes to war, whether for one's country or one's beliefs, the warrior should expect theirs to be a one-way road. I am glad I now only need wield a plowshare, but if I had no field and no seeds then I would have no farm and family to lose if I took up the sword. This is why we assume the shooter is motivated by some loss of a loved one, because most don't fight until their family is threatened. But there's no doubt as to whether killing is justified; it's all a risk/reward calculation.