enframed wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:44 pm Does Apple Music actually have a true shuffle feature?

there is a shuffle feature. are you asking if it's truly random? that is up for debate.

https://www.engadget.com/joe-rogan-repo ... 07040.html

Another reason not to give these clowns any money.

You may or may not be a fan of Ted Goia's writing, but he has interesting things to say about Spotify being more about pump and dump than it is about music:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-153380958


Also, this forthcoming book by Liz Pelly looks good https://lizpelly.info/book

LuciousSandwich wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:09 pm You may or may not be a fan of Ted Goia's writing, but he has interesting things to say about Spotify being more about pump and dump than it is about music:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-153380958


Also, this forthcoming book by Liz Pelly looks good https://lizpelly.info/book

Just this week while driving my daughter to school, I was checking out a new Guided By Voices song. Spotify did it usual drift of playing similar stuff after playing the GBV track. A weird track played, it sounded like it was perfectly on the grid using the Garageband drummer, but ran through "Lo-Fi" plugins. It had a dumb band name like I Do Karate or some shit. I skipped the track and said to my daughter that today's "indie rock" sucks. The next track was from another band I'd never heard of that sounded like Nick Cave fronting MJ Lendermen's band. It made no sense and it was terrible. Skip. Next song was a dumb band name with an "indie" looking cover and the song sounded like copycat GBV. I said to my daughter "Waaaaait a Minute. Is this fucking AI Music?"
I kept skipping songs and about 20 more songs in a row were the same shit: Copycats of lo-fi indie rock with dumb nonsensical band names and most of the song titles were the same title as the "album." I finally checked an artist profile on one of them and there was no bio or anything. I felt so creeped out by this experience.

I chatted with a co-worker who is really into electronic music and he said it's getting bad in his world with BS "remixes" and copycat tracks from fake DJ/artists popping up. I can only imagine there are server slop farms just cranking this shit out for every genre, and with AI it's just going to get shittier by the minute, and now I know that Spotify is in on it.

It shouldn't surprise anyone ultimately that we (musicians, creative artists) are just bait and alibi to these guys.

jimmy spako wrote: It shouldn't surprise anyone ultimately that we (musicians, creative artists) are just bait and alibi to these guys.

Yup, that tracks. It’s congruent with years of life experience, as well as a number of things I’ve read coming from different vectors and disciplines.

In a tech-bro driven world, where slimy billionaires call the shots, the arts and genuine artists are often just used as fodder, a backdrop against which other more lucrative and politically consequential things happen. "Culture" can be a way of white-washing all kinds of dubious maneuvering.

Cynical as I tend to feel about all of this, I still think there are still reasons to get out of bed in the morning, reasons to continue to create, communicate, and even congregate. Artists just shouldn’t count on tech-bro culture, AI, and the “dead internet” of bots and bullshit to solve more problems than they create.

RyanZ wrote: Just this week while driving my daughter to school, I was checking out a new Guided By Voices song. Spotify did it usual drift of playing similar stuff after playing the GBV track. A weird track played, it sounded like it was perfectly on the grid using the Garageband drummer, but ran through "Lo-Fi" plugins. It had a dumb band name like I Do Karate or some shit. I skipped the track and said to my daughter that today's "indie rock" sucks. The next track was from another band I'd never heard of that sounded like Nick Cave fronting MJ Lendermen's band. It made no sense and it was terrible. Skip. Next song was a dumb band name with an "indie" looking cover and the song sounded like copycat GBV. I said to my daughter "Waaaaait a Minute. Is this fucking AI Music?"
I kept skipping songs and about 20 more songs in a row were the same shit: Copycats of lo-fi indie rock with dumb nonsensical band names and most of the song titles were the same title as the "album." I finally checked an artist profile on one of them and there was no bio or anything. I felt so creeped out by this experience.

I guarantee you you could pay a kid a few hundred bucks on fiverr to crank out far more convincing fake indie tunes than whatever this AI model that cost millions to produce shits out.

The investment-to-payoff ratio of this generative AI shit is so laughable I cannot wait for the bubble to burst. Go ahead shitty companies: continue going all in on it.

I mentioned this in another thread, and it happened again today.

I listen to podcasts on Spotify and today I got int my car and Spotify started up (it connects to the bluetooth automatically and plays) and it was a Joe Rogan show. I have not once ever listened to Joe Rogan on Spotify.

Doesn't someone here work there? Why the fuck is this happening? They padding his listens?

I'm about ready to move to Apple Music over this bullshit.

I ditched Spotify because they started with the popups and How Are We Doing sort of shit. Platforming Rogan is also some shit.

I use YouTube music, which might be the worst interface I've ever experienced with a streaming service. But it's included with my YouTube sub, so I'll tolerate it.

Used to have Google Play Music, which was amazing and pleasant to use. Of course they ditched it.

I've discussed moving to a Plex server in a different thread, although that's currently untenable with my wifi access.

enframed wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:41 pm I mentioned this in another thread, and it happened again today.

I listen to podcasts on Spotify and today I got int my car and Spotify started up (it connects to the bluetooth automatically and plays) and it was a Joe Rogan show. I have not once ever listened to Joe Rogan on Spotify.

Doesn't someone here work there? Why the fuck is this happening? They padding his listens?

I'm about ready to move to Apple Music over this bullshit.

Well, I was reading over on the Spotify community that this is indeed a thing many others are complaining about. So fuckin Sad.

I bet they are padding his listens so when his contract is up he'll stay. IIRC if you listen to 30 seconds of something it counts as a listen.

Truly pathetic behavior, whatever the reason.