So I'm gonna go through the catalog of FNM (Patton only) and am into Epic at the moment. I forgot how brilliant "Zombie Eaters" is both musically and lyrically; he was canceling men before men were canceled!

Patton et. al. certainly have a love of Pink Floyd and Alan Parsons Project, and I support their channeling this band.

The whole recording suffers from being terribly dated and a very wet production, but the tunes are generally good.

Edit: OK the slap funk bass is terrible on a couple of those early tracks. Jesus, I always hated that in rock and metal songs.

enframed wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:35 pm Edit: OK the slap funk bass is terrible on a couple of those early tracks. Jesus, I always hated that in rock and metal songs.

Nail on head. If they had a different bassist and no keyboards they could have been on to something.

Lu Zwei wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 6:44 am

seby wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2025 5:24 pm It is music by and for boring normal people who like to cosplay at being interesting and weird.

WOW WOW WOW WOW. Are you calling me a normie?

Round One...FIGHT! : )

major wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:27 pm Nail on head. If they had a different bassist and no keyboards they could have been on to something.

"If they sounded more like every other band ever they would have been better" is how I read this.

Jacques wrote: Joke band. Probably less bad than some of the other Mike Patton circus music out there, but I'm sure as hell not listening to any of it.

Better the FNM circus than Psycho Circus, amirite?

Really I should post this in the Lyrics you sing wrong because... thread but:

YOOOOOOOO Make me wanna shout "DAGNABIT!"

LuciousSandwich wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:53 pm Really I should post this in the Lyrics you sing wrong because... thread but:

YOOOOOOOO Make me wanna shout "DAGNABIT!"

Now that slaps!

major wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:27 pm

enframed wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:35 pm Edit: OK the slap funk bass is terrible on a couple of those early tracks. Jesus, I always hated that in rock and metal songs.

Nail on head. If they had a different bassist and no keyboards they could have been on to something.

This is basically King for a Day. Keyboardist wasn’t really present and there’s no slap.

Gramsci wrote: Sat Aug 16, 2025 4:35 am

major wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:27 pm

enframed wrote: Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:35 pm Edit: OK the slap funk bass is terrible on a couple of those early tracks. Jesus, I always hated that in rock and metal songs.

Nail on head. If they had a different bassist and no keyboards they could have been on to something.

This is basically King for a Day. Keyboardist wasn’t really present and there’s no slap.

Okay. If that’s true I will give it a shot and report back.

Ehhhhhh...

Faith No More is one of those bands where its execution (post-The Real Thing, anyway) can be awful close to a lot of bands with good "indee cred" at times, with many of those "commissar approved" bands being on Mike Patton's label, Ipecac, and with Mike - and a couple of other current/past members - having either been in bands with members of some of those bands or contributed to works by members of those bands. I suspect this places them in a sort of uncanny valley because they just so happened to break into the mainstream for a spell, putting them into this awkward space of being both "mainstream alternative" and indee-adjacent. Corollary to this, they are another band where the preponderance of evidence leaves a distinct odor of folks feeling the need to be extra performative about disliking them because of this.

So, it becomes not enough to simply not like their music, which is a fine enough reason to not like their music on its own, but folks like to get almost political about it with thinly-veiled permutations of "they got popular for a while, so I must come up with extra-snarky reasons to dislike them." I just think back to the Soundgarden thread and the statement that "if The Jesus Lizard wrote this song, you'd be raving." I like 'em. Nothing wrong if you do, nothing wrong if you don't. But are the theatrical appeals to "INdEe CrEd" really necessary in 2025? Is the teenage tribalism and gatekeeping really all that "punk rock" when most of y'all are like pushing 60?

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:29 am It’s all just so bad. Music for mid-wits to wear shorts to.

I'll have you know, good fellow, that my professional, academic, and intellectual credentials speak for themselves, and that I, accordingly, refuse - I say, refuse! - to wear shorts.

Not crap for me, but I can see why they might grate on some folks' nerves. But I could say the same thing about Big Black... most of the world considers them to be unlistenable. What makes our opinions more valid than theirs?

I’d to know exactly what albums y'all are listening to because Faith No More is closer to “the Final Countdown” than anything The Jesus Lizard ever did.

I’m not even a noise rock guy and the difference is plain. Granted, I’m not a funk metal guy either, but I have ears!