enframed wrote:

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:05 pm
Seriously though, why would he consider flying? It's two hours and 45 minutes from NYC to DC on the fastest express train. That does seem kind of wasteful to fly...

This is such a bullshit line of reasoning, again placing on the individual the responsibility of reducing pollution. One can be pro environmental causes and get on a plane. Pretty sure some of us here do it.

We don't have to travel around the world for holiday. If we really cared, we'd never leave our own city.

This "argument" needs to stop.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:38 pm

enframed wrote:

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:05 pm
Seriously though, why would he consider flying? It's two hours and 45 minutes from NYC to DC on the fastest express train. That does seem kind of wasteful to fly...

This is such a bullshit line of reasoning, again placing on the individual the responsibility of reducing pollution. One can be pro environmental causes and get on a plane. Pretty sure some of us here do it.

We don't have to travel around the world for holiday. If we really cared, we'd never leave our own city.

This "argument" needs to stop.

It's just an incredibly silly, wasteful thing for a politician to do if you're living that close to Washington DC. Nothing to do w/the environment so explicitly. Given the hassles of the airport, you wouldn't even save any actual time. It's just kinda dumb.

And not a great message for a candidate who's supposedly focused on affordability and sustainability and all that. Seems a little tone deaf. Flying to DC or Boston, when we have a perfectly good high-speed train line, is something that celebrities and businessmen tend to do more than "average" New Yorkers. This plus some of his views on housing and developers make me question how in touch this guy really will be. Again, shades of Obama. (Much like Barack, he does have great taste in food compared to most politicians, I'll give you that.)

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:05 pm Yes but how do the libs feel?

enframed wrote:

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:38 pm

enframed wrote:

This is such a bullshit line of reasoning, again placing on the individual the responsibility of reducing pollution. One can be pro environmental causes and get on a plane. Pretty sure some of us here do it.

We don't have to travel around the world for holiday. If we really cared, we'd never leave our own city.

This "argument" needs to stop.

It's just an incredibly silly, wasteful thing for a politician to do if you're living that close to Washington DC. Nothing to do w/the environment so explicitly. Given the hassles of the airport, you wouldn't even save any actual time. It's just kinda dumb.

And not a great message for a candidate who's supposedly focused on affordability and sustainability and all that. Seems a little tone deaf. Flying to DC or Boston, when we have a perfectly good high-speed train line, is something that celebrities and businessmen tend to do more than "average" New Yorkers. This plus some of his views on housing and developers make me question how in touch this guy really will be. Again, shades of Obama. (Much like Barack, he does have great taste in food compared to most politicians, I'll give you that.)

Oh dear.

You went from "kind of wasteful" to "Incredibly wasteful" and added "silly" into the mix. But, the act was only "a little tone deaf."

As mayor elect I would guess he has fewer hassles at the airport. Or maybe he's on a no-fly list?

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joe_lmr wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:45 pm

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:05 pm Yes but how do the libs feel?

The libs are crying that Gretchen Whitmer & Muriel Bowser weren't fawned over like this when they visited, and that the Mamdani Bros (my term, but it's implicit) have a double standard for thinking it's just great that Mamdani was friendly with Trump while calling out Kamala Harris palling around with Liz Cheney, never mind those were all different situations.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:23 pm Fewer hassles at the airport? Come on now. Why don't we get the poor kid a private jet while we're at it.

Look, numerous people on this forum have bitched about how America doesn't have comprehensive high-speed rail a la the EU, Japan, or even China.

Well, there's one corridor in the United States in which we actually do.

joe_lmr wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:56 pm

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 9:23 pm Fewer hassles at the airport? Come on now. Why don't we get the poor kid a private jet while we're at it.

Look, numerous people on this forum have bitched about how America doesn't have comprehensive high-speed rail a la the EU, Japan, or even China.

Well, there's one corridor in the United States in which we actually do.

Dude it's AMTRAK, not the Shinkansen

AttackChimp wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:58 pm Zohran Mamdani is the Jon Spencer of politics.