rachael wrote:Thank you by the way, for throwing your coat over the dead raccoon.

I don't know what I'd have done without you.

made it into a smashing new purse? hat? zippo cozy?

waltermalling wrote:actually rachael, you said you both were on your 5th round before the food even showed up at the table. you got the food to go because you both were full already from drinking so much. correct? then, you went to get more beer. sooooo, i believe legally you would be considered drunk and unfit to drive after your second round. yet, 3 more rounds were ordered then you both drove off to get more beer on the way back to his place. that's fucked up in my opinion.

Are you too drunk to drive after 2 drinks?
If everybody who has 2 drinks was then too drunk to drive, the roads in this country would be littered with corpses.
If you had 5 drinks, over the course of 3 or 4 hours, while eating a meal, and were a grown man, I think it's entirely possible that you would not have a BAC above the legal limit.

The Kid wrote:If you ... were a grown man

You could've just left it at that.


That was really well written, Rachael. Thanks.
I envision him singing "I wear my crown of shit" to you through a door.
that is fucking comedy gold.




Faiz

waltermalling wrote:i’m just suprised that i’m the only one that has concern in regards to parent’s drinking and driving.

You are not alone.

I've had it with my parents' drinking and driving - I'm so sick of busting them out of the klink with TNT.

If one thinks about it logically, forcing you kids to listen to Billy Corgan solo, later Pumpkins, and Zwan is a far worse offense than having a few drinks and going for a drive. How the hell are watermellon's kids ever going to get that shit out of their brains? A lot of therepy is how, or copius amounts of tree and lsd.

Jeeze Rachael, I didn't think our date was that bad. Oh well, i fail again.

By the way watermellon you keep begging my fiancee for an update on our dates and you get your response, and then you rag on her. You bring up over and over "DUI", what do you want us here on the forum to do, give them intervention? Are you some moral purist who knows whats best for everyone? The poster who mentioned that over a long meal covering a few hours 4-5 drinks would not probably be over the limit is quite right. But you are too busy moralizing from your Zwan highhorse to fathom that. What's your point? That you are better, know better, are a better parent?

I guess that's what i can expect from a Zwan fan.

rachael wrote:anyway, I'm just fucking honest about my life. I really don't care if you and Mrs. troll give me shit anymore. Thanks to anyone who tried to make this a nicer place for me and everyone else by asking these two jack-asses to shut-up and dissapear.
Walter/Kenoki - you contribute nothing, so from this point forward, consider yourselves ignored.
Have a great day.

Rachael... what can I say? I have tried, but I'm afraid you taking offense to being goth isn't my issue. Nor is it trollish to tell someone, who is obviously concerned about her privacy (well, sometimes, it depends, you have to ask) it's lame (i would hope by your own standards, even -- ya just got caught up in the storytelling aspect) to spill out some personal ass information about someone else. like, really personal. especially when its 100% sad. whether someone asked or not isn't the concern. not that i'm throwing stones cause i don't care but i'm saying if we're gonna get picky about a lot of shit let's all agree not to air out other people's personal CRISIS here. It doesn't make the story any more hilarious, the puma/dublin shirt secured that one. I'm not saying your not sometimes funny Rach, nor am I the one who sought out your photograph and publically made a mockery of it -- so do me a favor, don't add me to the Walter list. I mean, if for the reason that I am an actual person, as opposed to a really bizarre fake alias, alone. Then again, yall are kinda equal on the so absurd its insanely funny meter.

kenoki wrote:so do me a favor, don't add me to the Walter list. I mean, if for the reason that I am an actual person, as opposed to a really bizarre fake alias, alone.

Ha.

ha.

ha ha.

There is no name given, no descriptions that are identity obtusive. She could have made the whole shit up. Whats so terribly personal about her description. That he's going through custody stuff? That he's got inbred cats? That his taste in music sucks? So does watermellons taste in music. Big fuckin deal. It's not like his S.S. number or home phone number. So she thinks hes a dork and was uncomfortable? My dates with watermellon were uncomfortable, big deal.
What, he might read her description and feel bad? he's welcome to tell his side of the tale if he happens upon this.

"Man, there is this guy in florida with green shoes and shit, what a loser."
it'sa small world, but not that small.

honestly, i think the folks who are ragging on her in this thread are doing it out of boredom. the whole crap/not crap forum is full of uninfromed attacks on all sorts of subjects. people say shit like the members of so and so band should be killed/tortured/hated, but some anonymous guy that rachael goes out with becomes some sacred cow of light? give me a break.

the real issue here is that a lot of us (including myslef) are real dorks and can empathize with the poor shlub she went out with, and rachael is your whipping girl of your own failures.

except watermellon. he's married and everything he does is golden.

i love you watermellon man, i saved your non-dairy creamer in a little vile i keep around my neck.

capnreverb wrote:There is no name given, no descriptions that are identity obtusive. She could have made the whole shit up. Whats so terribly personal about her description. That he's going through custody stuff? That he's got inbred cats? That his taste in music sucks? So does watermellons taste in music. Big fuckin deal. It's not like his S.S. number or home phone number. So she thinks hes a dork and was uncomfortable? My dates with watermellon were uncomfortable, big deal.
What, he might read her description and feel bad? he's welcome to tell his side of the tale if he happens upon this.

"Man, there is this guy in florida with green shoes and shit, what a loser."
it'sa small world, but not that small.

honestly, i think the folks who are ragging on her in this thread are doing it out of boredom. the whole crap/not crap forum is full of uninfromed attacks on all sorts of subjects. people say shit like the members of so and so band should be killed/tortured/hated, but some anonymous guy that rachael goes out with becomes some sacred cow of light? give me a break.

the real issue here is that a lot of us (including myslef) are real dorks and can empathize with the poor shlub she went out with, and rachael is your whipping girl of your own failures.

except watermellon. he's married and everything he does is golden.

i love you watermellon man, i saved your non-dairy creamer in a little vile i keep around my neck.

rachael wrote:Where do I begin? He's in a custody battle over his daughter like every six months, he's about to have his house foreclosed on, he has a son that he never sees and gave custody of over to the mother's grandparents and his last girlfriend killed herself.

capn, that last sentance doesn't seem too vague to me. you just spill some shit about how some dude's girlfriend killed herself, (who just bought you dinner, mind you -- although i guess that's kinda hilarious in a really deranged way) on a public message board, when who fucking knows, he could end up on or his friend may end up and recognize the story, or yeah it could be all made up but then that would sort of prove my "she's fucked" point. actually, that's more walter's point, although i seem to recall him attempting to be nice? i'm not sure.

and i also realize it's really really really really easy to just brush over posts and respond to those that sort of stood out, especially lines, or people who are particularly net-aggravating -- so maybe you didn't notice that not everyone has r-dawg on some hit-list... it's all just fodder for, as you said, boredom, conversation, debate, discussion, and noticing how hypocritical everyone can be at whim. but that's ok. i'm down with hypocrisy.

oh, and as we've mentioned -- i'm not a dude. i can only empathize with the idea of not calling someone back based on entirely superficial reasons (although, not wanting to sex someone cause they use emoticons in seriousness, isn't exactly petty), and for no personal reason of my own can empathize with the idea of not necessarily wanting my public life on display without my consent. no names is fine. green shoes and stupid emails are fine. but let's keep the whole suicide history on a DL, doncha think? i mean, am i REALLY being the asshole here? cause i dunno about you, but i'm not just saying shit cause there's someone here i'm trying to impress. yall are all equally 'tarded.

honestly, if the dude is going to drop the jerry springer raymond carver crap on the first date, what does he expect ( oh my god, he's got all this darkness, i cant wait to suck his dick and have his kids!)?

if your favorite band/auther/playwright wrote something along the lines of what she wrote based upon a bad date, would you feel the same way?

without ours and other peoples darkness, where would all the good music and art and books be?