cakes wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:55 am

TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:46 am

zorg wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:29 am
Agreed, but in the organized crime era there was certainly more ballot-stuffing going on..."Vote early, vote often" being a phrase famous with Chicago gangsters Richard Daley and Al Capone. Nowadays, I think most parties realize that advertising with fake news and hysteria work just as well as directly buying votes. Weaponizing stupidity.

Trump does believe that 70s mob movies are real in 2025

I don't see the relevance of something that happened literally 60 years ago with completely different politics, laws and people. This is a fucking joke, and when people keep bringing it up, it's because they're dumb.

Put this up there with "Democrats are the party of the KKK".

yeah well, they're stupid assholes?

enframed wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 12:22 pm

rsmurphy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 10:11 am

This is good, thank you.

Phenomenal watch. A welled up more than once. An incredibly courageous woman.

It’s amazing when people met the person they think they hate they realise how absurd their beliefs are.

This isn’t a criticism, but her being a secular, moderate leftist, woman probably made her job easier. Being a complete fucking asshole to a polite, articulate and clearly compassionate woman would feel dickish to all but the most sociopathic douche.

She made a very telling comment in the BBC doc that drew all the vitriol. I’m summarising, “The UK will never be 100% white again, so we all need to get along. That includes immigrants not expecting to recreate the society they came from.”

She’s an anti fundamentalist activist and woman’s rights advocate with Muslim communities and polar opposed to the kind of Islam that is portrayed as the threat by white nationalists. Looking at her bio, most of her activism and fighting misogynistic, theocratic assholes. Probably most of the violence threats she’s had came from her own community. So hats off all round.

I’m going to watch her other films. Very much my bag.

Oh, and Richard Spencer was absolute fucking cringe. Is he still a thing?

Gramsci wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 11:48 am

enframed wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 12:22 pm

rsmurphy wrote: Sat Jan 31, 2026 10:11 am

This is good, thank you.

Phenomenal watch. A welled up more than once. An incredibly courageous woman.

It’s amazing when people met the person they think they hate they realise how absurd their beliefs are.

The thing is sometimes they don't hate the person, they hate the group, or the idea of the group, the other.

There's a named psychological phenomena, I can't remember what it's called, wherein bigots remove a particular person from the group they hold negative opinions of, so they are no longer considered black or muslim or whatever. I have seen this first hand with my former step-father and "Mexicans," and my wife has experienced this with her grandmother and her black friends. What I wonder is if this is what is happening here, especially with the older dude at the end.

Mostly what I got from this is that most of these people (not the elites, obv), not the terrifying and clearly mentally retarded guy tossing stuff from his car window, seem to be simply disenfranchised and poor and looking for someone to blame. Blaming someone different from them is easy.

Yes, and there are plenty of anecdotal quotes from (former?) Trump supporters who fully supported mass deportation of "those people" and then they find out they're kidnapping like, Helen from accounting who works down the hall, or "the guy who cleans my gutters" or some shit and they do NOT like it. wtf

Teacher's Pet wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 1:21 pm Yes, and there are plenty of anecdotal quotes from (former?) Trump supporters who fully supported mass deportation of "those people" and then they find out they're kidnapping like, Helen from accounting who works down the hall, or "the guy who cleans my gutters" or some shit and they do NOT like it. wtf

That's just the nature of the mob mentality though, it's not exactly keenly discerning. Is it much different from fights between football supporters? Sadly people like to mob.

zorg wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 1:30 pm

Teacher's Pet wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 1:21 pm Yes, and there are plenty of anecdotal quotes from (former?) Trump supporters who fully supported mass deportation of "those people" and then they find out they're kidnapping like, Helen from accounting who works down the hall, or "the guy who cleans my gutters" or some shit and they do NOT like it. wtf

That's just the nature of the mob mentality though, it's not exactly keenly discerning. Is it much different from fights between football supporters? Sadly people like to mob.

They believe there's 3 million illegal immigrants voting in California, all on the payroll of the DNC, and every one of them is a criminal. Julio cleaning the floors at their office is "one of the good ones" and then, BAM! reality hits them in the face driving 1000 miles per hour because they've been stuck in the slow lane watching their fantasies instead of paying attention to the road.

I really love the revealing AI slop of right wingers showing the evidence of their fantasies, through faked imagery created from prompts. Really shows you where their heads are, which is so far up their own asses, they can smell the shit in their mouths.

I wish this all was bad enough to bring in the political will for a drastic immigration reform. We 100% absolutely need a lot of immigrants in our country. Illegal immigration has kept it functioning. If everyone can just admit it we can protect them from bad actors, and properly vet people coming in. We need a WIDE open door that everyone comes through and then is efficiently checked in. I hate to say it but we need to replace several thousand military police with several thousand pencil pushers. We need to decriminalize people working their asses off.

losthighway wrote: Thu Feb 05, 2026 2:18 pm I wish this all was bad enough to bring in the political will for a drastic immigration reform. We 100% absolutely need a lot of immigrants in our country. Illegal immigration has kept it functioning. If everyone can just admit it we can protect them from bad actors, and properly vet people coming in. We need a WIDE open door that everyone comes through and then is efficiently checked in. I hate to say it but we need to replace several thousand military police with several thousand pencil pushers. We need to decriminalize people working their asses off.

We can have immigration reform. We just can't have it with racists and bigots in positions of power in this government, more interested in holding power than actually doing anything material for regular Americans, let alone for the good of the actual country. Ain't even gonna be a thing other than "deport them all" with King Miller at the helm.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... portations

Geez, it looks like after voting for the Leopard Eats Your Face party some people are surprised a leopard ate their face.

Kind of telling that we're in a rapidly disintegrating democracy when it's a sigh of relief that the president posts a racist meme, instead of threatening invasions, kidnapping world leaders or we have to see another killing of civilians by the state. This is how low the bar is for wagging the dog, now.