Frankie99 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 12:10 am I voted for her, my wife voted for him in this primary. I like her a lot, she has flaws. They all do. But again, they're a means to an end. A pawn. Usable parts.

losthighway wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 7:23 am

Frankie99 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 12:10 am I voted for her, my wife voted for him in this primary. I like her a lot, she has flaws. They all do. But again, they're a means to an end. A pawn. Usable parts.

He seems to have a knack for taking the "What would Jesus do?" question and repeatedly clarify that it would be nothing the Republicans are doing. Many of us non-believers have put little thought into Christian leftism, but I've started to realize it's a logical read on the religion and could harness millions of churchy folk into doing some real good.

twelvepoint wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:12 am It kind of melts my mind to wonder what has gone so wrong with elections and the democrats over the last decade. I really don’t know if it’s lack of appeal to people who want real progressive changes, or whether it’s a lack of connection with undecided - and probably low information- voters. Probably both? But does appealing to the former demographic alienate the latter, or vice versa? And if so, will it code an election? Arrggh, my mind is melting again.

twelvepoint wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:12 am It kind of melts my mind to wonder what has gone so wrong with elections and the democrats over the last decade. I really don’t know if it’s lack of appeal to people who want real progressive changes, or whether it’s a lack of connection with undecided - and probably low information- voters. Probably both? But does appealing to the former demographic alienate the latter, or vice versa? And if so, will it code an election? Arrggh, my mind is melting again.

Frankie99 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:26 am

twelvepoint wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:12 am It kind of melts my mind to wonder what has gone so wrong with elections and the democrats over the last decade. I really don’t know if it’s lack of appeal to people who want real progressive changes, or whether it’s a lack of connection with undecided - and probably low information- voters. Probably both? But does appealing to the former demographic alienate the latter, or vice versa? And if so, will it code an election? Arrggh, my mind is melting again.

Every moderate I know is more afraid of moving to the left because they're convinced it will hurt them financially. It's almost pavlovian for moderates to align with the right out of fear.

They want the change, they don't want the pain. They may not actually want the change.

Frankie99 wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:26 am Every moderate I know is more afraid of moving to the left because they're convinced it will hurt them financially. It's almost pavlovian for moderates to align with the right out of fear.

They want the change, they don't want the pain. They may not actually want the change.

Gramsci wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 8:43 am But just historically centrists will always pivot right in the face of a left wing alternative. Even embracing fascism if necessary to maintain their position.