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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:08 pm
by clocker bob_Archive
Cho's sister works for the State Department and has a history with private military contractors:
WMR 4-20-07 wrote:April 20-22, 2007 -- Mass killer Cho Seung Hui's link to Iraq occupation and private military contractors. It has been discovered that Cho's older sister, identified as Cho Sun Kyung by South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper, works as a contractor for the State Department's Iraq Reconstruction Management Office.

Her employer is McNeil Technologies of Springfield, Virginia. McNeil, which was involved in prisoner interrogations for the Defense Department, is owned by Veritas Capital, a defense industry acquisitions firm that also owns two other Defense and US intelligence contractors, Dyncorp International and selected remnants of the former company of Mitchell Wade (of Duke Cunningham infamy), MZM Inc., renamed Athena Innovative Solutions, Inc. Cho Sun Kyung is three years older than her brother.

wikipedia wrote:BLUEBIRD is the cryptonym for a CIA mind control program, lasting from 1951 to 1953. During this time the CIA authorized experiments to be conducted by licensed psychiatrists. The experiments had various purposes, including but not limited to: creating new identities, inducing amnesia, inserting hypnotic access codes in subjects' minds, creating multiple personalities, and creating false memories. The research also included placing brain electrodes in people and controlling their behavior from remote transmitters, administering daily dosages of LSD-25 to children for extended periods of time, and using electroconvulsive therapy to erase memories.


Or you could look up MK-ULTRA and a few others. It is an established fact that the CIA has programs that turn subjects into one man 'sleeper' cells.

But it is totally impossible that they would ever be used to create gun panic generating monsters. Totally and completely impossible. Because mass murder would never be exploited as political capital. It's unheard of.

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:26 pm
by blackmarket_Archive
Irresponsible Journalism =
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Have a look at THIS article. A 9mmm will kill someone if you shot them 2, 3, or 4 times as Cho did. They are not used for "plinking cans"...that's not even what the guy in the video said. He was referring to the .22.

Misleading, no?

The article also shows this "recently taken image" (it's still unclear who took the image, how it is know the picture was taken "recently"):
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claiming it is Cho. the image is conveniently so small you can't read that the guy's name, who is in the picture, is HU, not HUI. I wonder how a 23 year old had time to fit in all those years busting his ass in the Marines, in between his studies?

Irresponsible, no?

If you still have some time left and want have a good laugh check out THIS thread, where they seem to be convinced the picture is of Cho, despite the fact that 80% of his head is obscured and that his uniform would have read "CHO"...being his surname. There are more in consistencies in the thread.

On a certain level, I can appreciate the work you do Bob, but I can't help but feel you jump off without a whole lot of evidence. There are several links that must be proven in between here and "covert Gov. agent".

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:31 pm
by 242sumner
blackmarket wrote:
Well, he did make the video, took those pictures AND made a trip to the Post Office .


It was said that he was influenced by a korean movie called Oldboy,which was based on a Japanese manga.
I guess this kid was a very susceptible person and could have been easily influenced by an excessive, highly stylized violent film.

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:36 pm
by blackmarket_Archive
242sumner wrote:
blackmarket wrote:
Well, he did make the video, took those pictures AND made a trip to the Post Office .


It was said that he was influenced by a korean movie called Oldboy,which was based on a Japanese manga.
I guess this kid was a very susceptible person and could have been easily influenced by an excessive, highly stylized violent film.



WRONG.

COVERT GOVERNMENT AGENT, READ tEH POAST.

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:40 pm
by 242sumner
ok.

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:47 am
by Mazec_Archive
blackmarket wrote:Irresponsible Journalism =
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Have a look at THIS article. A 9mmm will kill someone if you shot them 2, 3, or 4 times as Cho did. They are not used for "plinking cans"...that's not even what the guy in the video said. He was referring to the .22.

Misleading, no?


In reference to that article, I don't see why it is SO suspicious that Cho managed to kill that many people. Close range, two semi-autos, lots of extra magazines, firing on unarmed civilians probably paralyzed with fear.

To me, the main challenge Cho probable faced was keeping his nerves together while committing the massacre.

To be honest, I've been surprised that past shooting rampages haven't left more dead. It sounds terrible, I know, but I think it's a small miracle that Klebold and whoever in Colombine "only" ended up killing 12 people and not fifty. In contrast to Cho, they were also armed to the teeth with shotguns and semi-auto rifles and all kinds of shit. Unlike Cho, though, it seems like they did not "keep their cool" while committing the murders.

Anyway, I think there are way better explanations why Cho managed to kill 32 people than a CIA mind-control assassin program. He was simply quite determined, probably did not try to make any "final speeches" like in the movies, just went in shooting and aimed each shot deliberately and carefully.

I can understand why the government/most people in general do not want to face the facts that it is relatively easy for an untrained (albeit unhinged) civilian to off that many people. Needless to say, it's disturbing as fuck.

But I don't see why the "success" (if you will) of Cho's rampage in and of itself is ground for suspicion.

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:27 am
by clocker bob_Archive
blackmarket wrote:On a certain level, I can appreciate the work you do Bob, but I can't help but feel you jump off without a whole lot of evidence. There are several links that must be proven in between here and "covert Gov. agent".


You are a moron. I did not say I could prove a link. You are so fucked up in the head, you think that people are not permitted to ask questions until they have the answers. I'm convinced you are brain damaged.

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:34 am
by blackmarket_Archive
clocker bob wrote:
blackmarket wrote:On a certain level, I can appreciate the work you do Bob, but I can't help but feel you jump off without a whole lot of evidence. There are several links that must be proven in between here and "covert Gov. agent".


You are a moron. I did not say I could prove a link. You are so fucked up in the head, you think that people are not permitted to ask questions until they have the answers. I'm convinced you are brain damaged.


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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:35 am
by clocker bob_Archive
blackmarket wrote:
I wonder how a 23 year old had time to fit in all those years busting his ass in the Marines, in between his studies?


Just shows how utterly blocked in the head you are. You don't need to be a marine to get a marine uniform. He could have worn it for one Saturday in his life. Trying thinking beyond the obvious for once in your life.

What has to be determined now:Is that Cho and who is with him? Looks enough like his eyes to make we want to know if it's him.

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:43 am
by brad lepik_Archive
OK maybe this has already been brought. I am sure it has mentioned somewhere, but I did not see it posted under this topic.

But isn't sending out an email to students sitting in classrooms about a mad and armed gunning, killing people and running around loose on campus, a real bad way of communicating????

Why in the hell were classes going on?

I mean holding people in classrooms, which I guess many of them had only one door in and out, is probably not a real good idea.