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Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:31 am
by MoreSpaceEcho
I ordered some shims on amazon yesterday, should be here today, we'll see how it goes!
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:53 pm
by TylerDeadPine
Tom Wanderer wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:13 am
MoreSpaceEcho wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:20 pm
Never shimmed a neck before but it doesn't seem like rocket surgery, so I might as well give it a go.
I've shimmed a few necks and it's been relatively easy. Not doing pro setups, mind you, just making guitars comfortable to play to the best of my ability. I've used plastic coated playing cards cut into a thin strip (with one edge slightly rounded to fit nicely into the heel of the pocket). Even with something that thin, you can often get away with just one or two layers. You can buy special shims of brass or wood or just DIY. There are a lot of suggestions out there. Start with just a little bit of thickness, one ply of a card or something thin like that, and see how far it takes you. It usually doesn't take much.
^ this is good advice - Sometimes high end wood supply places will have little veneer card sample packs. They're great
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:57 am
by Tom Wanderer
TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:53 pm
Tom Wanderer wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:13 am
MoreSpaceEcho wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:20 pm
Never shimmed a neck before but it doesn't seem like rocket surgery, so I might as well give it a go.
I've shimmed a few necks and it's been relatively easy. Not doing pro setups, mind you, just making guitars comfortable to play to the best of my ability. I've used plastic coated playing cards cut into a thin strip (with one edge slightly rounded to fit nicely into the heel of the pocket). Even with something that thin, you can often get away with just one or two layers. You can buy special shims of brass or wood or just DIY. There are a lot of suggestions out there. Start with just a little bit of thickness, one ply of a card or something thin like that, and see how far it takes you. It usually doesn't take much.
^ this is good advice - Sometimes high end wood supply places will have little veneer card sample packs. They're great
Ah! Yes, I have used that exact thing a long time ago. Pretty much ideal. I need to find where those went. You might even be able to get something like that at a hardware store. Anything that has a display of samples for door/countertop/cabinet finishes usually has those sample "cards". About 3"x5". I think I saw some at Menards last time I was buying a door.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:18 pm
by Kniferide
The strap button on my Guild Starfire is behind the heal of the neck joint. This is wrong and should have never been done to any guitar. Does anyone know of a strap button thing that mounts inside the hollow so I can install it on the top horn? other idea is to just cut a curved piece of wood, put some glue on it and secure it to the end of the horn on the inside to give me something to drill into for a strap button.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:41 am
by Maksym Giza
Can anybody suggest good currently being produced alternatives to AKG C451 EB/C452? I'm looking for SDCs with brighter, more detailed sound for snare, OH, some acoustic instruments etc.
I was thinking about Audio-Technica 4051b (not sure how different it is from 4051a) or Josephson C42.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:50 am
by Tom Wanderer
Maksym Giza wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:41 am
Can anybody suggest good currently being produced alternatives to AKG C451 EB/C452? I'm looking for SDCs with brighter, more detailed sound for snare, OH, some acoustic instruments etc.
I was thinking about Audio-Technica 4051b (not sure how different it is from 4051a) or Josephson C42.
I have never actually used either, but I was on the hunt for an AKG 451 or an AT 4051 for quite a while. I believe they are supposed to be very similar. The first 4051 (or 'A') just had a low cut switch, the 'B' has switches for both low cut and pad. There was also a change to the capsule, just the housing I think. The 'A' had grill vents that run parallel to the body of the mic, the 'B' has vents that encircle the capsule. I was never able to find either in my price range and ended up just getting a Pro37r.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:33 am
by mdc
No direct experience, but the Advanced Audio stuff is really popular around here and I have a few pals that love these guys:
https://advancedaudio.ca/collections/fe ... cts/cm1084
Just glancing at the frequency response charts, it doesn't seem like these have quite as pronounced a presence peak (slopes off right around 10K, I think the 451 extends a little bit beyond that?), but in practice might do the thing? I've had a Shure SM81 pointed at my hi-hats on the rare occasion those get mic'd and it's always seemed appropriately hi-hat-y.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:18 am
by TylerDeadPine
Tom Wanderer wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:57 am
TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:53 pm
Tom Wanderer wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:13 am
I've shimmed a few necks and it's been relatively easy. Not doing pro setups, mind you, just making guitars comfortable to play to the best of my ability. I've used plastic coated playing cards cut into a thin strip (with one edge slightly rounded to fit nicely into the heel of the pocket). Even with something that thin, you can often get away with just one or two layers. You can buy special shims of brass or wood or just DIY. There are a lot of suggestions out there. Start with just a little bit of thickness, one ply of a card or something thin like that, and see how far it takes you. It usually doesn't take much.
^ this is good advice - Sometimes high end wood supply places will have little veneer card sample packs. They're great
Ah! Yes, I have used that exact thing a long time ago. Pretty much ideal. I need to find where those went. You might even be able to get something like that at a hardware store. Anything that has a display of samples for door/countertop/cabinet finishes usually has those sample "cards". About 3"x5". I think I saw some at Menards last time I was buying a door.
And now you're still working in the Menard's labour camps to work off the door-debt. God dammit doors are expensive.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:50 pm
by Kniferide
Maksym Giza wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:41 am
Can anybody suggest good currently being produced alternatives to AKG C451 EB/C452? I'm looking for SDCs with brighter, more detailed sound for snare, OH, some acoustic instruments etc.
I was thinking about Audio-Technica 4051b (not sure how different it is from 4051a) or Josephson C42.
Oktava 012 are still my favorite go to SDC for literally everything. One of my fav tom mics, guitar, I've even used them on vocal. I like my SM81's but they are so much bigger I never reach for them. we have Neuman 184's at work and I've never thought I'd rather have them than the Oktavas. for the price I think they may be the best mic you can get for per dollar spent.
Re: Small questions that don't fit anywhere
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:14 am
by Nate Dort
While I would second the recommendation of Oktava MC/MK-012s just to have around, I wouldn't consider them as bright and detailed as 451s.
Why not just buy a current production C451 B? Yeah, they're not exactly the same as the older EBs, but neither is any alternative. 451s kind of have their own distinct thing going on in the top end.