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Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:01 pm
by Earwicker_Archive
Bob is right.
It's lazy, ignorant and probably doing a grave disservice to our kids and grandkids to just dismiss all conspiracy theories as a waste of time.
Gramsci, suggesting the whole CIA secret operations in South and Central America etc happened in the cold light of day on TV (at the time) is just silly (though I suspect you know that and just piped in on here to get a rise out of some folks in which case you have succeeded remarkably).
Not all Conspiracy Theories are true - of course.
But likewise they're not all wrong either. Most here seem to be making their selection of believed or acceptable conspiracy theories (or those worthy of investigation) on the basis of groups and organisations accused of being involved in conspiracy.
That's unwise I reckon.
Oh and Manufacturing Consent, as far as my understanding of it goes, is a conspiracy theory.
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:04 pm
by big_dave_Archive
I assumed that all conspiracy theories came about during the communist witch-hunt years, anti-left and anti-intellectual in their make up. What could be more retarded than the basic fear that people you loath might dare to organise themselves. Crap.
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:15 pm
by gio_Archive
clocker bob wrote:gio wrote:
I won't deny that there's "shit we don't know" about 9/11, or whatever.
Thank you. We're done. You have agreed that the official history of 9/11 is inadequate. Now, if you have some sense of honesty, you will go back to the first post you made in this thread, where you wrote this:
gio wrote:Conspiracy theories have none of these qualities. They are often a rambling vomit of facts skewed by bias and ingorance towards reasonable evidence.
and reword it to state this:
"I personally don't like to spend much time on conspiracy theories, so I can't say for sure which ones are CRAP and which ones aren't. I am unwilling to debate the merits of any particular conspiracy theory, so I would be drastically overstepping the bounds of my limited research by making an unsubstantiated, broadbrush and pejorative claim like "Conspiracy theories are often a rambling vomit of facts skewed by bias and ingorance towards reasonable evidence"; frankly, I haven't done nearly enough research on conspiracy theories to sort the good from the bad. I do think that there is information yet to be learned about 9/11 in particular, so I commend all those who continue to research those events, and will withhold judgement on their research until I've actually looked at it."
Signed,
Gio
That would be an honest post to this thread, based on what you have revealed about yourself. Instead, you made a dishonest post fueled by stereotypical prejudices and not your own firsthand investigations.
Your call.
Will you edit my term paper for me?
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:17 pm
by clocker bob_Archive
gio wrote:Will you edit my term paper for me?
Is it on 9/11?
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:20 pm
by clocker bob_Archive
big_dave wrote:I assumed that all conspiracy theories came about during the communist witch-hunt years, anti-left and anti-intellectual in their make up. What could be more retarded than the basic fear that people you loath might dare to organise themselves. Crap.
What could be more retarded than not knowing that the mother lode of conspiracy theories, 9/11, came 15 years after the end of the Cold War and 40 years after the communist witch-hunt years?
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:22 pm
by gio_Archive
clocker bob wrote:gio wrote:Will you edit my term paper for me?
Is it on 9/11?
No, it's a series counter-arguments to the "status quo" belief that the brain controls motor activity. We are collecting evidence that the motor component of farts is encoded by a ganglion of nerves in my left ass cheek.
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:25 pm
by Flaneur_Archive
Does the presence of WMDs in Iraq circa 2002 count as a conspiracy theory? Or are conspiracy theories only those which debunk the official story?
EDIT: I mean, isn't a major flaw of the current president that his office embraces (and, in some cases I think, truly believes) conspiracy theories?
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:27 pm
by big_dave_Archive
clocker bob wrote:big_dave wrote:I assumed that all conspiracy theories came about during the communist witch-hunt years, anti-left and anti-intellectual in their make up. What could be more retarded than the basic fear that people you loath might dare to organise themselves. Crap.
What could be more retarded than not knowing that the mother lode of conspiracy theories, 9/11, came 15 years after the end of the Cold War and 40 years after the communist witch-hunt years?
The vast majority of "conspiracy" language is loaded with the fear that clever people are organising themselves against you. Come to think of it, it means almost the exactly the same thing for thought as "organised labour" means for physical work. This is not a set of terminology that I'd feel comfortable being on the same page as.
Precious bodily fluids, you ahistorical nitwit.
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:31 pm
by gio_Archive
Holy fuck, what an appropriate day for this discussion.
Here ya go, Bob:
go to town on this one.
Explanation: conspiracy theories
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:54 pm
by alandeus_Archive
You get Horatio Sanz drunk enough, he'll confess to anything.
