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I'm a vegetarian, but damn do I like the taste of certain kinds of meat. Every once and awhile, I have to break my diet and have some. I love, love, venison. Also, In N' Out burgers are delicious but a bit overrated.

I basically decided to cut out red meat because it was giving me heart troubles/stomach pain. I was just kinda sick of it, and since I don't really eat fish, chicken or pork, went for the veg. route, which I tried before.

I dunno, there are enough "substitute" meats out there that are just as good as regular meat that it doesn't even strike me as being a lesser option. If you're a hardcore meat-eater, it probably wouldn't cut it, but for me it's a personal choice and I feel a whole lot better health-wise.

Here's a funny aside: this past holiday season, I cooked up a bunch of veggie chili for my hardcore meat-eating Minnesotan relatives with the fake crumbles and no one could tell the difference. Not one mention.

zom-zom wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:This has happened like 5 times in the last few months....
Bunch of people all going out to eat, we all decide on a place everyone is happy...then oh guess what? There's a fucking vegetarian coming, so we can't go there we have to go to some shitty super expensive place that serves vegetarian bullshit and nobody is happy except the vegetarian.
They always extoll the virtues of some vegie burger of some shit, saying it's better than a real burger and wait till you try it you'll never eat a real burger again...then you get there and it's a fucking rock hard black straw and dirt flavored hockey puck on some kind of fucked up bun that tastes like styrofoam.

I can't imagine many restaurants that wouldn't have something a vegetarian would consider edible besides a steak-house. .

Yeah but there are plenty of restaurants who have zero that would be interesting or edible for a meat enthusiast such as myself, and that's where they wanna go.
'Oh they have a mushroom steak, it tastes just like porterhouse'
Fuck you it does, I bet it tastes like a squashed fucking mushroom....and how the fuck would you know what a porterhouse tastes like anyway?

zom-zom wrote:Would it kill you to not eat meat for one dining out experience?

Possibly, I have never tried so I have no idea what would happen.
Isn't that like asking a vegetarian 'Would it kill you to just eat some meat this one meal?'
God forbid I said something like that to one of these people, people would look at me like I am yelling racial slurs at the table.

My whole problem is not that people don't eat delicious meat. As bizarre and silly as the idea is to me I could give a fuck what people eat.
My problem is with people I know who are vegetarians constantly yapping on and on about it and forcing everyone else to change their plans and make special arrangements for them. If I go to a dinner at a friend's house I'm gonna eat whatever they cook, and I'm gonna tell them it was awesome. I wouldn't call ahead of time and give them a list of what I need them to cook for me. What kind of fucking prick does that?
Oh yes, vegetarians and vegans think nothing of doing that. That's right.
I cut every vegan I know out of my life awhile back, best thing I ever did. It's like I had a little crying baby for years and one day I finally got up the nerve to drive to the ocean and hurl it off a cliff down onto the rocks.....that's the peace of mind I now feel when I am making calls inviting people to dinner. No more list of demands 'Oh no honey, I don't eat honey for some reason now...and make sure none of my food touches anything with any cheese on it and also if you can go to the store and buy this super expensive tofu we'll have that, but not any kind of tofu we only eat a certain kind' or blah fucking blah blah blah

Marsupialized wrote:

zom-zom wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:This has happened like 5 times in the last few months....
Bunch of people all going out to eat, we all decide on a place everyone is happy...then oh guess what? There's a fucking vegetarian coming, so we can't go there we have to go to some shitty super expensive place that serves vegetarian bullshit and nobody is happy except the vegetarian.
They always extoll the virtues of some vegie burger of some shit, saying it's better than a real burger and wait till you try it you'll never eat a real burger again...then you get there and it's a fucking rock hard black straw and dirt flavored hockey puck on some kind of fucked up bun that tastes like styrofoam.

I can't imagine many restaurants that wouldn't have something a vegetarian would consider edible besides a steak-house. .

Yeah but there are plenty of restaurants who have zero that would be interesting or edible for a meat enthusiast such as myself, and that's where they wanna go.
'Oh they have a mushroom steak, it tastes just like porterhouse'
Fuck you it does, I bet it tastes like a squashed fucking mushroom....and how the fuck would you know what a porterhouse tastes like anyway?

zom-zom wrote:Would it kill you to not eat meat for one dining out experience?

Possibly, I have never tried so I have no idea what would happen.
Isn't that like asking a vegetarian 'Would it kill you to just eat some meat this one meal?'
God forbid I said something like that to one of these people, people would look at me like I am yelling racial slurs at the table.

My whole problem is not that people don't eat delicious meat. As bizarre and silly as the idea is to me I could give a fuck what people eat.
My problem is with people I know who are vegetarians constantly yapping on and on about it and forcing everyone else to change their plans and make special arrangements for them. If I go to a dinner at a friend's house I'm gonna eat whatever they cook, and I'm gonna tell them it was awesome. I wouldn't call ahead of time and give them a list of what I need them to cook for me. What kind of fucking prick does that?
Oh yes, vegetarians and vegans think nothing of doing that. That's right.
I cut every vegan I know out of my life awhile back, best thing I ever did. It's like I had a little crying baby for years and one day I finally got up the nerve to drive to the ocean and hurl it off a cliff down onto the rocks.....that's the peace of mind I now feel when I am making calls inviting people to dinner. No more list of demands 'Oh no honey, I don't eat honey for some reason now...and make sure none of my food touches anything with any cheese on it and also if you can go to the store and buy this super expensive tofu we'll have that, but not any kind of tofu we only eat a certain kind' or blah fucking blah blah blah

Damn, you must've hung out with some pure snobs.


Myself and a majority of my friends are Vegans and we get invited to dinner with a bunch of our meat eating friends all the time without making ridiculous requests to the host. If all the entrees aren't Vegan, we'll simply say "Thanks for the offer but I'm alright". Especially if it's at a restaurant. If there's nothing on the menu suitable for me I'll just hang out with my friends, talk and have a drink while they eat.

I'm yet to meet another Vegan who acts like everyone should roll out the red carpet but if I do I'd tell 'em to fuck off. I don't like snobs despite what they eat.

Barking in requests to a friend of yours who invites you over to have dinner and hang out or telling everyone to switch a restaurant because you're the only one who won't be able to eat anything is rude despite what you eat.

not crap.

can't force it on anyone. if you're the odd man out in a group, you're eating salad.

meat can be really, really gross.

AnthonyVillalobos wrote:Myself and a majority of my friends are Vegans and we get invited to dinner with a bunch of our meat eating friends all the time without making ridiculous requests to the host. If all the entrees aren't Vegan, we'll simply say "Thanks for the offer but I'm alright". Especially if it's at a restaurant. If there's nothing on the menu suitable for me I'll just hang out with my friends, talk and have a drink while they eat.

I'm yet to meet another Vegan who acts like everyone should roll out the red carpet but if I do I'd tell 'em to fuck off. I don't like snobs despite what they eat.

Barking in requests to a friend of yours who invites you over to have dinner and hang out or telling everyone to switch a restaurant because you're the only one who won't be able to eat anything is rude despite what you eat.

This is exactly it. If none of the food available is vegan, then I politely turn it down. No ordering them, no making them go out of their way to fix me a meal, I can eat once I'm home. No big deal.

The misconceptions are easily dismissed, but the ones not doing anyone any favors are the pushy, snobby vegans. They ruin it for the rest of us. I don't pry or chastise anyone for what they eat, so I don't expect it in return. Live and let live.

Oh, and it irks me when places that obviously aren't vegetarian-friendly put stuff on the menu that are "vegetarian."

Like, we'll just pile on the cheese! Or, we'll just put a bunch of random vegetables together and call it a sandwich.

Luckily, I live in a place that has a TON of restaurants that cater to us bleeding-heart animal lovers.

You know it still pisses everyone off if you are sitting there not eating, it just makes everything weird and not as pleasant as what could have been.
Just eat something, seriously. The world will keep turning.
Just like I get something at the vegetarian place, I hate it but I eat it. I'm not gonna sit there and not eat and make everyone feel weird.

Friends I go out with regularly are cool with me not ordering food. I usually just ask for tea or coffee, sometimes I leave the tip.

Marsup, if you don't like the food at a particular place, don't order just for the sake of not being rude. If they're your friends, I think they would understand.

Skronk wrote:Friends I go out with regularly are cool with me not ordering food. I usually just ask for tea or coffee, sometimes I leave the tip.

Marsup, if you don't like the food at a particular place, don't order just for the sake of not being rude. If they're your friends, I think they would understand.

Of course they say they are cool with it, but you know it's a drag. It's just a downer, it's damn near impossible to fully enjoy your meal when the dude next to you is nibbling on crackers and sipping water saying 'Oh no thanks, I'm not eating'
It throws a weird vibe on the night, suddenly you feel weird about eating this food in front of you.
The right thing to do is sit outside and wait till everyone normal is finished eating, to spare them from your constant yapping and sounding off about your twisted alternative lifestyle for an hour will not kill you.
I think the whole vegan thing is just an attention ploy anyway, hey look at me everyone I don't eat food! I suck this green paste out of a tube! Aren't I just so interesting? You are all doing it wrong! Barbarians!

Like sitting outside is somehow more appropriate than enjoying the company, and not eating? Riggghhht.

I think the whole vegan thing is just an attention ploy anyway, hey look at me everyone I don't eat food! I suck this green paste out of a tube! Aren't I just so interesting? You are all doing it wrong! Barbarians!

Ha. It's news to me that vegans don't eat food. I see how you could make that mistake though, some vegetables come out of the ground. Yikes.