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connor wrote:And with all those messengerbagwearing, skinnyassed hipsters pumping their fists in the air, I couldn't help but think: will they be back in a few weeks for Mastodon/Converge? Probably not.

I'm sorry...

what?

ironyengine wrote:

connor wrote:And with all those messengerbagwearing, skinnyassed hipsters pumping their fists in the air, I couldn't help but think: will they be back in a few weeks for Mastodon/Converge? Probably not.

I'm sorry...

what?

I saw Lightning Bolt at Webster Hall in Manhattan. In a few weeks, Converge will be opening for Mastodon at that same venue. So my point was that the messengerbagwearingskinnyassedhipsters will only allow themselves exposure to specific instances and preselected expressions of a metall-esque sound.

My point was that LB is "metal" for those who can only handle such music sparingly. I'm not sure why they're so hipster-potable but they are.

Maybe it's LB's "wank" factor? Metal in hipster art student packaging? Or maybe it's because these hipsters believe that this band, called "Lightning Bolt," is working within some kind of faux-irony and therefore these people can freely "rock out" with emphasis on the quotation marks?

I'm going to vote for Dirty Three, and I've never heard Lightning Bolt. That's just the way it is.

BadComrade wrote:

NerblyBear wrote:
Something tells me you don't have the taste to appreciate great music.

If you did, you would understand that Brian Gibson is easily one of the most technically proficient bass players out there. He also has a completely unique style.

Brian Chippendale's drumming is also spot-on and extremely difficult to duplicate.

In fact, I've heard these two guys lionized as musicians by other incredible musicians such as Nels Cline and Weasel Walter.

There's nothing I've seen or heard Brian Gibson do with a bass guitar that I couldn't do within the first 6 months I started playing. Please, give me a specific example of something stunning that he's done, because I haven't heard it or seen on on youtube, etc.

Brian Chippendale is a fucking Weasel Walter wannabe at best, and since Weasel has an ego the size of Terry Bozzio's drum kit (<-- click to view), it's no surprise that he thinks Brian is a "musician", whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean...

You can play bass in that "tapping" style as fast as he does on songs like "Dead Cowboy" or "Two Towers"? Or "The Faire Folke"? Your picking-finger speed is strong enough to play "On Fire"? If so, then I definitely commend you. Most bass players that I know could never play them.

I don't think Chippendale's drumming sounds like Weasel Walter's at all.

I aint never seen the Dirty Three but I've seen Jim drumming for Nina Nastasia twice and he's an utterly captivating musician, I always say he drums like a painter. If that sounds gay, sorry,it's the only way I can describe it visually.

I've seen Lightning Bolt a few times (I say I've 'seen' them..) and I'm bored of the live thing now because I really like to to be able to see what is going on, especially with drums. However, I first heard/saw them on that dvd the power of salad[..] and was totally blown away by the bass and drum thing. You can rewind bits and see just how fast he's drumming and how precise he is which always amazed me.

As for the bass, there is nothing wrong with saying that all you need is volume. In fact one of the best amps I ever saw was called a Slave and it had one knob on it, simply 'volume'.

However chaotic it might sound, I do prefer it to the Luttenbachers purely because I can detect more melody in there and girls like melodies dontcha know.

Had I seen the Dirty Three play live I might give a different answer but since LB got me so fired up to make the loudest bass rig ever known to man, I have to vote for them.

connor wrote:

ironyengine wrote:

connor wrote:And with all those messengerbagwearing, skinnyassed hipsters pumping their fists in the air, I couldn't help but think: will they be back in a few weeks for Mastodon/Converge? Probably not.

I'm sorry...

what?

I saw Lightning Bolt at Webster Hall in Manhattan. In a few weeks, Converge will be opening for Mastodon at that same venue. So my point was that the messengerbagwearingskinnyassedhipsters will only allow themselves exposure to specific instances and preselected expressions of a metall-esque sound.

So if the messengerbagwearingskinnyassedhipsters do not show up for Converge and Mastodon, this will have been the reason rather than merely liking Lightning Bolt more than Converge or Mastodon? I see.

Lightning Bolt's live show is energizing. Mastodon's, last I saw, was wholly not. But I'll let you keep your assumptions.

My point was that LB is "metal" for those who can only handle such music sparingly. I'm not sure why they're so hipster-potable but they are.

Maybe it's LB's "wank" factor? Metal in hipster art student packaging? Or maybe it's because these hipsters believe that this band, called "Lightning Bolt," is working within some kind of faux-irony and therefore these people can freely "rock out" with emphasis on the quotation marks?

As a non-messengerbagwearingskinnyassedhipster I can only guess why the messengerbagwearingskinnyassedhipsters you speak of like LB and not Mastodon and Converge, or whatever other bands you think embody the "true" metal.

I'm not sure why you are so convinced that being hip or carrying a bag has anything to do with liking one band over another, but it's a sentiment that seems to permeate this board's userbase and (I'm sorry) it is bullshit. Lightning Bolt simply sound better, to some people, than these Mastoverges you're so fond of.

I would love to hear Converge try and cover the first 36 seconds, much less the entirety, of "Bizarro Zarro Land."

Dirty Three.

Very beautiful music on occasion.

I'm a fan of very beautiful music.

Having not heard Dirty Three before, I would like a recommendation of an album to listen to.

I will then vote.

Nico Adie wrote:Having not heard Dirty Three before, I would like a recommendation of an album to listen to.

I will then vote.

They're all good. But I would start with either Dirty Three or Whatever You Love, You Are.

HTH

-Jeremy

NerblyBear wrote:

BadComrade wrote:

NerblyBear wrote:
Something tells me you don't have the taste to appreciate great music.

If you did, you would understand that Brian Gibson is easily one of the most technically proficient bass players out there. He also has a completely unique style.

Brian Chippendale's drumming is also spot-on and extremely difficult to duplicate.

In fact, I've heard these two guys lionized as musicians by other incredible musicians such as Nels Cline and Weasel Walter.

There's nothing I've seen or heard Brian Gibson do with a bass guitar that I couldn't do within the first 6 months I started playing. Please, give me a specific example of something stunning that he's done, because I haven't heard it or seen on on youtube, etc.

Brian Chippendale is a fucking Weasel Walter wannabe at best, and since Weasel has an ego the size of Terry Bozzio's drum kit (<-- click to view), it's no surprise that he thinks Brian is a "musician", whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean...

You can play bass in that "tapping" style as fast as he does on songs like "Dead Cowboy" or "Two Towers"? Or "The Faire Folke"? Your picking-finger speed is strong enough to play "On Fire"? If so, then I definitely commend you. Most bass players that I know could never play them.

I don't think Chippendale's drumming sounds like Weasel Walter's at all.

Since when on this forum did we start equating musical ability with musical quality?