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semi forcefully? Give me a break.

You and your friends are bullies.

New Guy,

If you weren't in Chicago over the weekend and weren't at the party that night, why are you even entering this discussion?

Because that guy, nor any of his friends are around to defend themselves, and they're all friends of mine. Wild rumors abound in this thread, "I heard he was picked up by the cops later" for instance.

Posting pictures of people and spreading rumors about them on the internet is cowardly bullshit. How would you feel if it was one of your friends?

Oh, and speaking of cowardly bullshit, how about tying a highly intoxicated guy to a fence?

New Guy wrote:Because that guy, nor any of his friends are around to defend themselves, and they're all friends of mine. Wild rumors abound in this thread, "I heard he was picked up by the cops later" for instance.

I'd actually love to hear their side of the story, since I didn't notice anything awry until we were trying to wake up "Doug," or find out if his name even was Doug. All I'm saying is that you really have no place accusing anyone on here of doing anything, considering that you were not there.

I'm not defending or heralding the actions of anyone in particular. I'm just saying that perhaps Doug and his friends should defend themselves on here if they are really that upset by...whatever happened.

stewie wrote:

An anonymous person on the internet wrote:Oh, and speaking of cowardly bullshit

Exactly. That's what I was getting at.

You're not getting what I'm saying.

None of those guys even know about this thread, and I probably won't even mention it to them.

It doesn't really even matter who it is, doing things like that to a person, posting pictures on the internet and bragging about it is shameful and spineless.

I had left long before all this shit occurred, but knowing all parties involved, I can safely say the following:

No one ever had any intention of ever leaving anyone anywhere. It was never an issue. It's good that strangers were concerned about him, but any accusations of his friends leaving alone by the roadside were completely unwarranted.

If anyone was violent towards him, it was 100% not Jim nor Fun Ender. They're just not violent people, even when drunk. I guess Kevin woke up in the middle of the night once on tour kicking and screaming at a sleeping bag, but he was already asleep in the car that night.

I would not at all be surprised if they were making fun of him for passing out drunk again. If anyone mentioned was casual about the situation, it's because they had been in it many many times before.

Jim certainly was bitching about it the next day, Bumble probably overheard him bitching to me about it. i'd be pretty bothered if I was in his situation too. If I ever found myself passed out on the street, Jim is the first person that I'd expect would take care of me.

As for Doug punching and groping people, I don't know and I'm not prepared to vouch for his character when drunk. If he punched or groped anyone, I'm really sorry this happened and frankly feel a little embarrassed.
I've known him a little bit for a long time. From what I've heard, he's a pretty wild drunk.

*edit*
since starting to post this, people are kind of starting to act retarded.
Can I please sum this up by saying:
There was this wild party that by and large was really fucking cool. A lot of people got really hammered. Someone got really really hammered and was acting like a total jackass and his friends took care of him and everyone (with the exception of pockets) got home safely and had a nasty hangover that hopefully cleared up in time to see some awesome bands the next day?
Is this cool? yeah.

New Guy wrote:how about tying a highly intoxicated guy to a fence?

I only hooked a bungee cord to his back belt loop.

I did see the POG punch two people, then grab a female friend of mine before he passed-out. He actually broke the bungee cord about 1 minute later. No harm done.

I saw no one kick the POG or throw beer on him, if I would have seen that, I would have stopped them from doing so.

The end.