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A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:35 am

Bernardo wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:33 am Not that significant a departure from their adjacent records, I'd say it was more underrated than singular.

It's a world away from Psalm 69, if closer to Dark Side.... It was definitely out of step with things at time of release, which gives it bastard points in my book.

Twitch is the one that really, really grabs me. That move from Twitch to LoRaH....

Captain Beefheart's Unconditionally Guaranteed needs re-assessed, about half of that album is among The Magic Band's best work.

Are You Are Missing Winner gets unfairly maligned, I think it's scrappy and weird in a really exciting way.

Bad Religion's Into The Unknown is surely better than anything they've done since Generator.

Sonic Youth's NYC Flowers and Ghosts is a better album than most of their 90's run, and it's a great warm-up for Murray Street, which is among their absolute best work.

I got into Bauhaus just as Go Away White was released, so I got to hear it with really fresh ears. I was excited to see Peter Murphy and David J had "Adrenaline" in the setlist when I saw them live.

Pere Ubu's St. Arkansas is easily one of my favorite things they ever did.

At this point everyone knows Weezer's Pinkerton and Jawbreaker's Dear You are great albums, right?

Iggy Pop's Naughty Little Doggie might be the garage rock Iggy classic nobody knows about. I would also go to bat for most of The Weirdness (Ron Asheton's riffs in particular)

The Hawklords albums are great, if a little new-wavey. They're still better than 80's Hawkwind.

I don't know where everyone stands with Mudhoney, but their whole run through My Brother The Cow kicks ass, plus that Monkeywrench album rules.

Isaac Hayes' Joy is funky and upbeat, the musicianship is interstellar. I love that album.

David Bowie's late career resurgence begins at hours..., not Heathen. It's also the only time Reeves Gabrels plays something I'd consider listenable.

There is nothing wrong with Albert Ayler's New Grass. It's on the same level as everything that came before it!

Lastly, I don't understand why The Seeds' blues album A Full Spoon of Seedy Blues got hate. It's fun, loose, and the contributions from Muddy Waters' backing band keep everything musically interesting and 'bluesy.' Surely anyone who likes the Seeds enjoys Sky Saxon's voice and sense of humor and charisma, so what gives?

wot wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:29 pm
I don't know where everyone stands with Mudhoney, but their whole run through My Brother The Cow kicks ass, plus that Monkeywrench album rules.

The Monkeywrench's first album is one of my faves. I was with Mudhoney hook line and sinker for absolutely everything up to and including Five Dollar Bob's Mock Cooter Stew. When they went back to Endino, and Arm came to the foreground, I tapped out. I did try though. I mean I really really tried

hellaskeletons wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 12:21 pm I'm not saying it's their best album, but I do skip less songs when I throw it on than I do when I'm listening to Fragile.

i can't believe i called you a friend.

I wasn't old enough to be on the internet at the time of this album's release but I understand fans thought Figure 8 was a sell-out moment for Elliot Smith. I think it's his best record and that "Stupidity Tries" is the best song he's written by a mile.

Recently revisited the Sparks back catalogue. I get why they would dislike Plagiarism, given that it looks backwards, but I think the reinterpretations on it are really good. It's both a Best Of and a Reversioned.

Can take or leave the Faith No More collaborations (a much better live experience than in the studio), but the rest of it deserves to be treated as more than an aberration.

wot wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:29 pm Captain Beefheart's Unconditionally Guaranteed needs re-assessed, about half of that album is among The Magic Band's best work.

I know a guy who counts Bluejeans & Moonbeams as his second favorite Beefheart album. Seriously.

On the Ubu side, not sure if it's a bastard child, but New Picnic Time never seems to get much attention (I gather the band was not getting along at all during the recording sessions, which may have something to do with it) but over the years it's become my favorite. It's like for one album they became this shell-shocked sounding, post-apocalyptic soul band.

motorbike guy wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 6:27 am

My entry in this list:

Its just a great record. I find myself listening to this more than all my other Placemats records.

Have you listened to Dead Man's Pop? It's on my should-check-out list, but I'm having a hard time building up the gumption to listen to a remastered album that was originally marginal. Pleased To Meet Me was the best post-Bob record the Mats put out, everything else was just Paul solo album material. I totally own my bias, I think Stink and Sorry Ma...are both masterpieces.

My entry: Voivod-RRROOOAAARRR. The musicianship is solid and the songs are engaging, but the production really takes it out at the knees. It sounds like they were recording inside of a culvert.

kokorodoko wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pm

seby wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 3:48 pmJustice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_( ... ber_album)

Yeah that one is my favorite as well.

You are confused, FM Seby was clearly referring to the French electronic duo.

Ryan Zepaltas wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:51 am Pixies - Trompe le Monde

Almost everyone I know hates this record. I think its their best.

I also think it's their best. Some I know like to dismiss it as something that "should have been a Frank Black solo album".
Funny thing is, pieces of Trompe le Monde (and every other Pixies album) are found on their 87 demo tape.

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:16 am If we're talking Ministry then I reach for Filth Pig beyond anything else. There was a time that would be prime bastard child material, but I think it seems to have fallen into place over the years as a worthy record.

I was going to mention Ministry.
Twitch and Filth Pig are my favourites, but I've been told by "real Ministry fans" that I am wrong, and those are the merely sucky bookends of the albums that I'm supposed to like. Ehhhh

Others that come to mind:

T Rex, "Tanx" and "Zinc Alloy and the Hidden Riders of Tomorrow" - Everyone loves "Electric Warrior" and "The Slider" but I trip out way harder on the two, that followed.

Pavement, "Watery Domestic" - I hear lots of folks say Slanted is their best, or even their only good album, which is insane. This follow-up smokes.
If somebody says they don't like Pavement, this 4 track EP is my conversion tactic.

Rolling Stones, "It's Only Rock n Roll" "Emotional Rescue" and "Tattoo You" - These all get kinda shoved aside, but songs Fingerprint File, Where the Boys Go, Little T&A, and Heaven are all fantastic.

Beach Boys, "Wild Honey" - A critical failure and attempt to cop some Motown/soul vibes. Probably has the least studio musicians of all their albums. Love it.

Smashing Pumpkins, "Pisces Iscariot" - I guess it's a compilation or whatever, but as far as double albums go, I much prefer it to "Mellon Collie ".

The Gun Club, "Divinity" - The Gun Club on this album sounds like INXS compared to their first two albums, but I really like the Urinals cover and "Sorrow Knows".

John Cale, "Animal Justice" - I don't know if it's actually well know or not, but when I bring it up nobody seems to have heard of it. 3 tracks that are probably my favourite output from John Cale, outside VU.

Trompe le monde is as good as previous Pixies stuff and is generally loved . Bossanova, as someone mentioned earlier, always seemed the underrated one to me. Dig for fire might be my fave song of them all.

Mats' Dont tell a soul is my fave after Pleased.

Goats head soup is my fave along sticky fingers.

I totally love Ramones' Brain drain. The sound is too weird for many fans... but I dig it. Most of the songs are killers.