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TobiasTheCommie wrote:And if we ignore that one, what about the rest of them?

There is no ignoring that one. The vaccine link is the central issue of this whole argument. If you scoff at it and call it 'fairy dust' ( as you did ), that shows your bias, and then when you lie about calling it fairy dust, that shows that you're a liar. Continue to fight for the last word here for as long as you want, but I've already written you off as a trustworthy voice on autism. I consider you a salesman for the pharmaceutical coverup, whether you're aware of it or not.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote:And if we ignore that one, what about the rest of them?

There is no ignoring that one. The vaccine link is the central issue of this whole argument. If you scoff at it and call it 'fairy dust' ( as you did ), that shows your bias, and then when you lie about calling it fairy dust, that shows that you're a liar. Continue to fight for the last word here for as long as you want, but I've already written you off as a trustworthy voice on autism. I consider you a salesman for the pharmaceutical coverup, whether you're aware of it or not.

sure there is, you have still taken these cheap shots on me. And no, i am not acknowledging lying.
- That i work for Eli Lilly
- That i have received money from pharm companies.
- That i am part of a rapid response team.
- That i am a salesman(though you didn't say what i sold)
- That i am a slimeball
- That i am insane
- That i gloat

TobiasTheCommie wrote: repeat

Keep repeating yourself. I'll keep doing this to make you crazy because you want the last word so desperately. If you want to waste space, keep repeating yourself at length. Until someone else joins in, this thread is dead; there is nothing left for you and I to say to each other on this issue.

clocker bob wrote:

TobiasTheCommie wrote: repeat

Keep repeating yourself. I'll keep doing this to make you crazy because you want the last word so desperately. If you want to waste space, keep repeating yourself at length. Until someone else joins in, this thread is dead; there is nothing left for you and I to say to each other on this issue.

Well, if you want to be close minded like that, ok.

And i have no interest in getting the last word. *shrug*

This will be my last post till someone other than you posts something

TobiasTheCommie wrote:This will be my last post till someone other than you posts something

Okay, but I'm getting last word until then, because I have seniority.

I'm just curious as to what amp "Toby the Commie" uses. Traynor?

zom-zom wrote:I'm just curious as to what amp "Toby the Commie" uses. Traynor?

I'm not sure, but he definitely has a looping pedal or two.

So Zom-Zom, how's the weather up in Mpls? Much snow?

TTC wrote:
I argue for the fairy dust link to remain part of the debate, and I also clearly state that it is an open question; fairy dust has not been proven to be the cause or proven not to be the cause.

Erm ... basic reading comprehension skills should tell you that he's making a point here about how silly "it's not been proven or disproven" is when used by itself as any argument for anything. And not actually calling anything 'fairy dust'.

Mark Van Deel wrote:

TTC wrote:
I argue for the fairy dust link to remain part of the debate, and I also clearly state that it is an open question; fairy dust has not been proven to be the cause or proven not to be the cause.

Erm ... basic reading comprehension skills should tell you that he's making a point here about how silly "it's not been proven or disproven" is when used by itself as any argument for anything. And not actually calling anything 'fairy dust'.

Sorry, not true. Tobias claims that the vaccine link has been erased from consideration, based on studies that have been called biased and politically influenced by critics with credentials in the field of brain disorder study. The fact is, four years after the removal of mercury from the vaccines is far too early to look at the autism numbers and say, "Oh look, they didn't drop like a rock, that means the vaccine is completely absolved of blame for the past 70 years of rising autism diagnoses". The pharmaceutical industry and their gov't cohorts are trying to stamp 'Case Closed' on the vaccine link based on completely inadequate data; we won't have the data we need for at least another decade. And Big Pharm is denying the credibility of data that supports the vaccine link, basically because they own the government and the media, so they can get away with it.

So, it is entirely appropriate to base an argument against discarding the vaccine link on the fact that it has not been proven or disproven, because sufficient time has not passed to decide that question. And he used a non-existent substance like 'fairy dust' for his analogy, which exposes his bias. And then he lied about the comparison, which was dumb, because his analogy is right there in black and white.