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Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:19 pm
by alandeus_Archive
Something the Main Stream Media failed to report yesterday, because they're all in the bag for Obama:
He was in San Antonio yesterday trying to find his bicycle in the basement of the Alamo.
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:59 pm
by stewie_Archive
Seriously, Clinton's campaign is turning into a trainwreck.
Geraldine Ferraro defended her controversial comment that Sen. Barack Obama's campaign was successful because he was black, telling an interviewer Tuesday that she was being attacked because she was white.
W. T. F.
She needs to get the fuck out of this race now while she still can. She's ruining the Democratic party's chances to beat McCain, day by agonizing day.
Obama leads in won delegates. He's predicted to win the national popular vote by about 700,000. Her lead in declared superdelegates has dropped from 100 to 30 in only one month's time.
And her goddamn voice is just getting more grating each time she speaks. She's turned into a fucking whinger. A serial fucking whinger.
CNN Story
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:37 pm
by connor_Archive
Ferraro's comment kind of reminds me of whenever my Republican mother starts griping about Affirmative Action.
Marc Ambinder of The Atlantic Monthly wrote:Re: Geraldine Ferraro:
Because running as a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama is soooo easy.
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:46 pm
by stewie_Archive
Really excellent post here from a contributor on the
Daily Kos.
Hillary, it's time to pull the plug on yourself
Let's lay it out on the table.
After the Mississippi primary tonight, here are the numbers:
There have been 45 contests to date. Michigan and Florida are NOT included in this number as they either have yet to be decided or, as I feel should happen, will be excluded for violating DNC rules agreed to by the candidates. I count the Texas primary and Texas caucus as separate contests; consider it a charitable move in Hillary's favor. (Obama won more delegates in Texas.)
In 45 contests to date, Obama has won 30 of them, Hillary 15.
Of Obama's 30 wins, he has received 60 % or more of the vote in 18 of them; and in 24 of the 30 he has received 55 % or more of the vote.
Hillary has received 60 % or more of the vote exactly once in 45 contests.
It is frankly embarrassing to her campaign that she has received 40 % or less of the vote in 25 of 45 contests. That is mind-boggling. Further, she has dipped below 35 % a whopping 16 times.
Obama has about a 165-delegate lead in the pledged delegates. He leads by about 133 in overall delegates. Both may go up further after the dust settles in recent contests.
Obama leads in the popular vote by nearly 900,000 after tonight's results. Even if you include Florida (which you should not), Obama leads by more than 500,000.
It's time to come right out and say it: There is no way Hillary can win the nomination without outright stealing it.
It's time to shut this thing down.
Hillary needs to do the right thing for once, and withdraw.
Barring that miracle, Bill Richardson needs to get off his fanny and do exactly what he said he'd do last week - endorse the person who has more delegates post-March 4. Al Gore and John Edwards need to hold a joint press conference tomorrow to endorse Obama and say to Hillary in front of the world, 'It's over.'
Obama needs to pull that 50-superdelegate card out of his back pocket and play it for the world to see.
Enough is enough, because if you think the Clintons have sunk to the lowest depth with Geraldine Ferraro's Strom Thurmond imitation the last couple days, you have another thing coming.
Look, the handwriting isn't just on the wall. It's on the floor. It's on the ceiling. It's on the chimney, the stairwell, the front door, the windows, the back door, and it's on the garage.
The handwriting is in blinding neon in 100-foot tall letters.
45 contests have been decided. 2 broke the rules and the rules ought to stand. Only 10 scheduled contests remain. Hillary will be fortunate to win half of them. Obama's worst-case scenario is that he will win half of them and after all ten remaining contests, it's most likely that Obama will hold a comparable lead in pledged delegates, overall delegates, and an advantage in the popular vote very similar to today.
It's time to face the music, end the drama, shut it down, and let's move on already.
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:52 pm
by kenoki_Archive
stewie wrote:Really excellent post here from a contributor on the
Daily Kos.
Hillary, it's time to pull the plug on yourself
Let's lay it out on the table.
After the Mississippi primary tonight, here are the numbers:
There have been 45 contests to date. Michigan and Florida are NOT included in this number as they either have yet to be decided or, as I feel should happen, will be excluded for violating DNC rules agreed to by the candidates. I count the Texas primary and Texas caucus as separate contests; consider it a charitable move in Hillary's favor. (Obama won more delegates in Texas.)
In 45 contests to date, Obama has won 30 of them, Hillary 15.
Of Obama's 30 wins, he has received 60 % or more of the vote in 18 of them; and in 24 of the 30 he has received 55 % or more of the vote.
Hillary has received 60 % or more of the vote exactly once in 45 contests.
It is frankly embarrassing to her campaign that she has received 40 % or less of the vote in 25 of 45 contests. That is mind-boggling. Further, she has dipped below 35 % a whopping 16 times.
Obama has about a 165-delegate lead in the pledged delegates. He leads by about 133 in overall delegates. Both may go up further after the dust settles in recent contests.
Obama leads in the popular vote by nearly 900,000 after tonight's results. Even if you include Florida (which you should not), Obama leads by more than 500,000.
It's time to come right out and say it: There is no way Hillary can win the nomination without outright stealing it.
It's time to shut this thing down.
Hillary needs to do the right thing for once, and withdraw.
Barring that miracle, Bill Richardson needs to get off his fanny and do exactly what he said he'd do last week - endorse the person who has more delegates post-March 4. Al Gore and John Edwards need to hold a joint press conference tomorrow to endorse Obama and say to Hillary in front of the world, 'It's over.'
Obama needs to pull that 50-superdelegate card out of his back pocket and play it for the world to see.
Enough is enough, because if you think the Clintons have sunk to the lowest depth with Geraldine Ferraro's Strom Thurmond imitation the last couple days, you have another thing coming.
Look, the handwriting isn't just on the wall. It's on the floor. It's on the ceiling. It's on the chimney, the stairwell, the front door, the windows, the back door, and it's on the garage.
The handwriting is in blinding neon in 100-foot tall letters.
45 contests have been decided. 2 broke the rules and the rules ought to stand. Only 10 scheduled contests remain. Hillary will be fortunate to win half of them. Obama's worst-case scenario is that he will win half of them and after all ten remaining contests, it's most likely that Obama will hold a comparable lead in pledged delegates, overall delegates, and an advantage in the popular vote very similar to today.
It's time to face the music, end the drama, shut it down, and let's move on already.
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Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:14 pm
by alandeus_Archive
Do the citizens of Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota (not to mention Florida and Michigan) not get a chance to cast their votes for the candidate they feel should be the Democratic nominee for president? Is Obama's candidacy not strong enough to stand up to a challenge?
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:34 pm
by Tom_Archive
alandeus wrote:Do the citizens of Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota (not to mention Florida and Michigan) not get a chance to cast their votes for the candidate they feel should be the Democratic nominee for president?
Nnnope...
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:41 pm
by fidelista_Archive
alandeus wrote:Do the citizens of Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota (not to mention Florida and Michigan) not get a chance to cast their votes for the candidate they feel should be the Democratic nominee for president? Is Obama's candidacy not strong enough to stand up to a challenge?
Right now there is pretty much no way for Hillary to get more delegates than Obama. She basically has to hope she can dig up some scandal to take him down before the convention, or start stealing delegates he's won. Basically, there is no way she can win honestly.
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:07 pm
by alandeus_Archive
fidelista wrote:alandeus wrote:Do the citizens of Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota (not to mention Florida and Michigan) not get a chance to cast their votes for the candidate they feel should be the Democratic nominee for president? Is Obama's candidacy not strong enough to stand up to a challenge?
Right now there is pretty much no way for Hillary to get more delegates than Obama. She basically has to hope she can dig up some scandal to take him down before the convention, or start stealing delegates he's won. Basically, there is no way she can win honestly.
A candidate has to achieve 2,025 delegates to claim the nomination. Obama currently has 1,403 (1,614 including superdelegates). There are 566 delegates up for grabs in those remaining states. Even if Obama were to win at a 60% clip, he'd only have 1,954 delegates at the end of the primary season, short of the number necessary. Why is nobody suggesting that he drop out?
Barack Obama Shouldn t Run in 08
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:52 pm
by DrAwkward_Archive
alandeus wrote:fidelista wrote:alandeus wrote:Do the citizens of Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota (not to mention Florida and Michigan) not get a chance to cast their votes for the candidate they feel should be the Democratic nominee for president? Is Obama's candidacy not strong enough to stand up to a challenge?
Right now there is pretty much no way for Hillary to get more delegates than Obama. She basically has to hope she can dig up some scandal to take him down before the convention, or start stealing delegates he's won. Basically, there is no way she can win honestly.
A candidate has to achieve 2,025 delegates to claim the nomination. Obama currently has 1,403 (1,614 including superdelegates). There are 566 delegates up for grabs in those remaining states. Even if Obama were to win at a 60% clip, he'd only have 1,954 delegates at the end of the primary season, short of the number necessary. Why is nobody suggesting that he drop out?
Because while he won't reach 2025 either, there is no way Hillary is going to even win the national popular vote or win more delegates, while Obama will likely end the primary campaign with majorities in both areas, if not clinching majorities. There's a bit of a difference.