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"...owned by Steve Albini and located in Chicago, Illinois" or "...is a two-studio complex in Chicago, Illinois owned by Steve Albini." In the latter alternative, the comma after Illinois is unnecessary and confuses the modifier.


This shouldn't be rocket surgery for us native speakers. But I like that it took 2 pages of funny to get here.

pwalshj wrote:"Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex, owned by Steve Albini, located in Chicago, Illinois."

Gnight, dorks.

As style, I don't like that sentence.

At its root, the comma signifies a pause. Three of them in one sentence is unfortunate, unless they are necessary.

As the home page of this site demonstrates, NO commas are necessary.

I much prefer the wording as it is:

Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex located in Chicago, Illinois and owned by Steve Albini.

The location is distinct from the name of the owner, which is why I prefer the 'and.'

That sentence is coherent and grammatically correct.

However, this sentence is a little better:

Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex owned by Steve Albini and located in Chicago, Illinois.

Steve's ownership is a unique feature of Electrical Audio.

He owns one studio only, whereas there are many studios located in Chicago, Illinois.

I would stress his ownership slightly by placing its mention first.

EDIT: Ty Webb agrees with me, and his point also occurred to me:

In the [sentence on the home page at present], the comma after Illinois is unnecessary and confuses the modifier.

+1.

By using "and", you don't need the comma. This is a strong point. I think this one is best:

Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex owned by Steve Albini and located in Chicago, Illinois.

because a lot of us raised by militant grammarians will stumble over the lack of comma after Illinois if the phrases are switched, even though the lack-of-comma way is stylistically best.

I use a hell of a lot of commas, myself, but I'm in recovery.

Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex owned by Steve Albini and located in Chicago, Illinois; it's message board is the nerdiest on the whole internets.

Rotten Tanx wrote: it's message board

GET IN THE BACK OF THE VAN!

johnnyshape wrote:Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex located in Chicago, Illinois.
It is owned by Steve Albini.

Next in line, please.

Ty Webb wrote:

Rotten Tanx wrote: it's message board

GET IN THE BACK OF THE VAN!

Jesus Christ, I'll bring the baseball bats.

Tanx, you don't even know what you've done, do you? Answer me!

Situé à Chicago, Electrical Audio est un complexe de deux studios appartenant à Steve Albini.

Problem solved, next!

tmidgett wrote:However, this sentence is a little better:

Electrical Audio is a two-studio complex owned by Steve Albini and located in Chicago, Illinois.

Steve's ownership is a unique feature of Electrical Audio.

He owns one studio only, whereas there are many studios located in Chicago, Illinois.

I would stress his ownership slightly by placing its mention first.

Mr. T is right. This sentence makes the most sense to me.

Sly Bug wrote:Situé à Chicago, Electrical Audio est un complexe de deux studios appartenant à Steve Albini.

Problem solved, next!

Mais, où est-ce que on trouve Chicago, Sly Bug? Hm?