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eephus wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:50 pm The speakers in the combo versions suck, though--must replace. And the onboard distortion is no good.

brownreasontolive wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 3:31 pm I'm surprised to hear your thoughts on the stock speakers! The ones with the freq. response chart on the back of the magnets?
All mine have the stock drivers and I've found them to be exceptional.

eephus wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:27 pm I don't know what I was thinking of...mine has the stock drivers, and they seem fine.

I just played through it a bunch. If there were no more tubes in the world and I had to use it, it would be just fine. The Tim pedal through it is pleasing, as the Tim pedal is through most things.

Nice! The Tim is pretty damn cool. The way the EQ works is something special.

I'm realising through this discussion that I've never tried running my Yammy amps with other speakers or a sealed cab....

Adding another person to the "oh, THEY use a Quilter too???" list, saw Helms Alee for the first time in 2 years last night, and Ben is now using a Quilter as the slave head for his stereo setup. They setup Dana's Meatsmoke on top of his other 4x12 though so it kinda looks like he's got two tube heads going.

Can't recall if I've chimed in on this thread- but yeah, The Bismarck has been Quilter for a long while. The ability to plug in to EU/ UK power with no adaptors is a great advantage.

I'll take pics, but I've built out an old briefcase-size anvil case I had to carry both the guitar and bass Quilters, plus my pedal board. Makes a nice rig for traveling.

tallchris wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:38 pm Adding another person to the "oh, THEY use a Quilter too???" list, saw Helms Alee for the first time in 2 years last night, and Ben is now using a Quilter as the slave head for his stereo setup. They setup Dana's Meatsmoke on top of his other 4x12 though so it kinda looks like he's got two tube heads going.

Awesome - I did that with just the microamp running off my pedalboard to another cab - loved it.

GuyLaCroix wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:44 pm

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:33 am Alright, so it sounds like we need to start working on the PRF solid state design. Probably need a good power amp to base it on. A while ago I messed with trying to make my own TS-15 power amp, because it's super simple, but I never got very far. Should revisit.

The Balls 0))) would be a purchase from me. Maybe a more useable distorted sound, better reverb ....

Shouldn't it really be "<===B-alls"

TylerDeadPine wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:58 am

tallchris wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:38 pm Adding another person to the "oh, THEY use a Quilter too???" list, saw Helms Alee for the first time in 2 years last night, and Ben is now using a Quilter as the slave head for his stereo setup. They setup Dana's Meatsmoke on top of his other 4x12 though so it kinda looks like he's got two tube heads going.

Awesome - I did that with just the microamp running off my pedalboard to another cab - loved it.

I bought a Quilter Interblock on sale from Reverb a while ago thinking "there's no way that won't come in handy at some point". Sure enough.. I was at a practice space with (I'm pretty sure) power issues that tube amps don't seem to like, so I hooked it up instead and liked it so much I just continued using it for a few months.

TylerDeadPine wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:58 am

tallchris wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:38 pm Adding another person to the "oh, THEY use a Quilter too???" list, saw Helms Alee for the first time in 2 years last night, and Ben is now using a Quilter as the slave head for his stereo setup. They setup Dana's Meatsmoke on top of his other 4x12 though so it kinda looks like he's got two tube heads going.

Awesome - I did that with just the microamp running off my pedalboard to another cab - loved it.

Did someone mention already that Orange is doing a little amp that's basically a clean 100w Class B with TMB controls? Looks cool, but I guess you wouldn't fit it on a typical pedalboard.

My tastes seem to echo the sentiment of most people here.
I love the Peavey Bandit 65s. I had a crazy idea to get a couple of them as a stereo rig for a junky weird band idea that never happened.

I've heard the Peavey Studio Pro 112 sound quite good.

Quilters have been pretty awesome four me. My work bought the Micropro 200 when it was first released for competitive analysis and I frequently mooched it when I was playing electric guitar in a Hawaiian music ensemble. I love the single trip load in; tiny combo amp and guitar case.

I has a Randall RG-80 for a while. Super great. Noisy but great.

I was really impressed with the Orange CR120. I seriously considered getting one for my punk band where we played tons of questionable "venues". Not really disposable, but I wouldn't be heartbroken if something happened to it, unlike my Traynor.

I almost bought a Sansamp Trademark 10 as a kick around practice amp.

In the 90s I was always impressed with the Trace Elliot Tramp and Super Tramp amps. I rarely see them now so I wonder if they didn't hold up?

I have a theory that early solid state amps sound good because they're basically the classic tube circuits but with transistors or op amps where gain stages would be. The transistors or op amp are just gain boosters, and then all the tone shaping and volume control are done with passive controls. THe result is an amp that at least behaves roughly like a tube amp cousin.

This is bad design from the trained engineer perspective. The way to do it to reduce noise and increase flexibility is to make the tone and level controls part of the active op amp circuits. These amps never quite feel right to me. They're not inherently bad, they're just not birthed from classic guitar designs.

I think Orange also realize this, because if you look at the CR120 schematic you can totally see a circuit very similar to the Rockerverb. There are op amps in the places in the circuit where you'd have a triode gain stage.

Oh, the Line 6 Catalyst is pretty good, but I'm hella biased.

benadrian wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:28 pm

GuyLaCroix wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:44 pm

Dr Tony Balls wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:33 am Alright, so it sounds like we need to start working on the PRF solid state design. Probably need a good power amp to base it on. A while ago I messed with trying to make my own TS-15 power amp, because it's super simple, but I never got very far. Should revisit.

The Balls 0))) would be a purchase from me. Maybe a more useable distorted sound, better reverb ....

Shouldn't it really be "<===B-alls"

The All Balls and No Dick Special

"Yea, it's got a proprietary ABNDS circuit... It's bespoke."

My V6B sounds very much like a V4 without the tube breakup. An overdrive pedal can resolve that.