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Justin Foley wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:13 pm Kerble -

Any record player that rests on anything that sits on the floor is subject to this skipping issue, as well as the dreaded bass hum* when you pump up the volume. The problem is sound moving from your speakers through the floor through whatever its resting on to your turntable to that tiny spot at the end of your record needle. A weight will hold your record in place but won't help stop this sound transmission. You'll also find that a soft spot on the floor that's coupled to your turntable's home (like a floor joist that runs to your turntable's table) will cause problems.

You can try to interrupt this passage by getting some isolation things - getting your speakers off the floor or floating (to various degrees) your turntable or the thing it rests on. But the most foolproof way is to get your turntable on a wall-mounted shelf. This has the added benefit of opening up your listening room to dancing without threatening a record-skip.

Hope this helps, and you are my homie.

= Justin

* I am not talking about Jeff Dimpsey.
Justin!

This is great info. Thanks for making it so clear. The speakers are on one table, the TT and Receiver are on a separate cabinet, so it's not skipping because of sound transfer, but def skipping bc of the floor vibrations, so I may be out of luck without wall mounting it. Grr. Edifying all the same.

Thanks for being my homie, the feeling is mutual!


Faiz

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kerble wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:08 pm
Justin!

This is great info. Thanks for making it so clear. The speakers are on one table, the TT and Receiver are on a separate cabinet, so it's not skipping because of sound transfer, but def skipping bc of the floor vibrations, so I may be out of luck without wall mounting it. Grr. Edifying all the same.

Thanks for being my homie, the feeling is mutual!


Faiz
If wall mounting doesn't work for you, you could try some sort of DIY isolation platform like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcAh3wMeqQ
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kerble wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:08 pm
Justin Foley wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:13 pm Kerble -

Any record player that rests on anything that sits on the floor is subject to this skipping issue, as well as the dreaded bass hum* when you pump up the volume. The problem is sound moving from your speakers through the floor through whatever its resting on to your turntable to that tiny spot at the end of your record needle. A weight will hold your record in place but won't help stop this sound transmission. You'll also find that a soft spot on the floor that's coupled to your turntable's home (like a floor joist that runs to your turntable's table) will cause problems.

You can try to interrupt this passage by getting some isolation things - getting your speakers off the floor or floating (to various degrees) your turntable or the thing it rests on. But the most foolproof way is to get your turntable on a wall-mounted shelf. This has the added benefit of opening up your listening room to dancing without threatening a record-skip.

Hope this helps, and you are my homie.

= Justin

* I am not talking about Jeff Dimpsey.
Justin!

This is great info. Thanks for making it so clear. The speakers are on one table, the TT and Receiver are on a separate cabinet, so it's not skipping because of sound transfer, but def skipping bc of the floor vibrations, so I may be out of luck without wall mounting it. Grr. Edifying all the same.

Thanks for being my homie, the feeling is mutual!


Faiz
Our floors are hell of bouncy, and putting the TT on a shelf mounted to the wall sorted things right out. The speakers are actually on shelves on another wall as well, and sit on small vibration-dampening squares that I think were intended for industrial use, and so were very cheap, having no audiophile pedigree.

It just took six OK-looking heavy duty shelf brackets, a few pieces of nice wood, and a stud finder. And saws and sandpaper and such. And some time, which I apparently had at some point. But having the TT at ~40” is terrific! I would post a picture but what am I going to do have a photobucket account or something? (I am not)

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major wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:16 am Years ago I was having the same issue with skipping. I found a heavy duty wood cutting board at a yard sale and glued some mouse pads to the bottom. Put the TT on that and never had an issue afterwards.
That shit can work.

Have had my table wall-mounted for a long time.
It sounds better too--even if it's not skipping, if it's getting any physical feedback from the speakers, the sound gets blurry.

One trick if you don't wanna wall-mount is to put the table's resting spot at the end of the floorboards right at the wall, as opposed to somewhere along the length of the boards.

Think of the floorboards like guitar strings.
They flex in the middle, but not on the ends, and the energy in the floorboards (from the low end) will be sent into where they are terminated (wall and floor joists) somewhat.
Sometimes that's enough.
Whereas if you have a cabinet set in the middle of the floorboards, it's soaking up the wobble right there.

All that said, proximity to the speakers is the main culprit.
And the bigger the speakers, the more of an issue there will be.
I have big ole speakers and the table is in a nook in the wall on a hardwood shelf with metal rails, on the other side of the room. very solid.
For a while, it was on a little cantilevered wall mount guy, and at top volume I got a lil bit of acoustic feedback.

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Thanks y'all. Nico, I tried the sorbothane feet, and they were really weird and goony for my setup. Evan, and Tim, I think I may look into a float shelf after all. I don't have a ton of room to work with, the way the tt cabinet sits below a window, but it's not untenable. Also, yeah, the tt is right in the middle of the floorboard run, so Tim's gtr string analogy is resonating (ba-dum). Major, I may keep that butcher block mousepad idea on deck, too. Chris, that ball bearing platform is really neat, but it's also an issue with the crowded space. This is all great intel. Salut.

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Thanks all for the VPI encouragement! I wound up picking it up for less than $200 out of pocket. Just waiting on a new hose and the fluid to show up any day now.

This is more of a "talk me out of it" deal but I've had the same turntable for close to 20 years now (Technics SL-DD22) that I've upgraded a few things on here and there (most recently, a Grado black catridge). It still works and I don't have any complaints.

That said, I've got a lead on a Rega PL-3 for a pretty decent price. Rather than say "Yep, go for it", can someone tell me what I'd be getting out of the Rega that I would be missing from the Technics?
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four_oclocker_2.2 wrote: Sun Oct 19, 2025 3:40 pm This is more of a "talk me out of it" deal but I've had the same turntable for close to 20 years now (Technics SL-DD22) that I've upgraded a few things on here and there (most recently, a Grado black catridge). It still works and I don't have any complaints.

That said, I've got a lead on a Rega PL-3 for a pretty decent price. Rather than say "Yep, go for it", can someone tell me what I'd be getting out of the Rega that I would be missing from the Technics?
There's pretty much nothing the won't be better on the Rega PL-3. I'd be very surprised if you don't notice better sound dramatically and immediately. Better vibration dampening, tonearm will be far superior, plinth, feet, everything. There has been vast improvement in materials science and production since the Technics was produced.
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