JFC this x100000000000000tommy wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:07 pm Truth is, whenever there is too much of a learning curve I just don't create. It's a pretty big hurdle for me.
Why do I feel like it's only been the defacto standard because Avoid keep saying it is, and engineers keep biting?
Fun typo. Totally unintentional. It stays.
was a Cubase/Nuendo dude until my Ly license from Nuendo 4 to 7 was going to cost me 2 grand. Thats when I switched full time to Reaper. Haven't regretted anything. It can really do everything. I liked Cubase/Nuendo aside from the terrible icon design.brownreasontolive wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:57 pmI would also suggest Reaper, but as most Reaper users do like to tinker under the hood, you won't necessarily be able to walk into any studio that has Reaper and just get to work. Obviously there are ways around that.Kniferide wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:42 am I suggest Logic only to people that are primarily Mac users and never want to share sessions with anyone else (I probably still wouldn't suggest it if Reaper is an option). If you want something cross platform and will behave exactly the same on any computer, try Reaper, and only use the VST version of plugins or the included Reaper plugins. Every session will open right up with little to no errors. Honestly, Reaper is the best DAW as long as you are the type of dude that likes to get under the hood a little. If you are not that dude, Logic is fine. Avoid Pro Tools. Its a trap.
Pro Tools is a piece of shit.
Harrison Mixbus seems awesome. (need to play with it more)
Logic is awesome if you're a Mac native.
Cubase has always been the winner for me.
However unpopular it may be in these parts, it's robust AF and it has NEVER crashed on me during a session.
100%Kniferide wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:02 pmwas a Cubase/Nuendo dude until my Ly license from Nuendo 4 to 7 was going to cost me 2 grand. Thats when I switched full time to Reaper. Haven't regretted anything. It can really do everything. I liked Cubase/Nuendo aside from the terrible icon design.brownreasontolive wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:57 pmI would also suggest Reaper, but as most Reaper users do like to tinker under the hood, you won't necessarily be able to walk into any studio that has Reaper and just get to work. Obviously there are ways around that.Kniferide wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:42 am I suggest Logic only to people that are primarily Mac users and never want to share sessions with anyone else (I probably still wouldn't suggest it if Reaper is an option). If you want something cross platform and will behave exactly the same on any computer, try Reaper, and only use the VST version of plugins or the included Reaper plugins. Every session will open right up with little to no errors. Honestly, Reaper is the best DAW as long as you are the type of dude that likes to get under the hood a little. If you are not that dude, Logic is fine. Avoid Pro Tools. Its a trap.
Pro Tools is a piece of shit.
Harrison Mixbus seems awesome. (need to play with it more)
Logic is awesome if you're a Mac native.
Cubase has always been the winner for me.
However unpopular it may be in these parts, it's robust AF and it has NEVER crashed on me during a session.
"you won't necessarily be able to walk into any studio that has Reaper and just get to work. Obviously there are ways around that." I keep my reaper Config file on my One Drive cloud storage. I can go anywhere, install the tiny 10 mb reaper instal and reaper looks the same as it does at home. Mac, or Pc. Its great. Heather uses it on Mac and I use it on PC and as long as she uses the VST and VSTi instances of plugins (AU is for suckers). Her sessions open up fine on either computer. I have all the Valhalla reverbs, Arturia V collection and Effects collection, and all the Tokyo Dawn plugins on both machines. I could work on any record with just that stuff and never miss anything else. The I'd be completely fine using nothing but the Tokyo Dawn Slick Eq, Nova Eq and Kotelnikov Compressor and deleting anything else. They are free and great.
Thanks for the responses...Garth nailed it with the comment above. I used Pro Tools by default for 20 years because I got good at using it, but then became interested in new possibilities of Ableton. I never totally left Pro Tools, just added aux programs for specific things, but at this point there are so many options that claim to "do it all", Logic being the one most people try to sell me on. I'll probably pick up Logic soon-ish, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Luna (w/ UA hardware. ) Seems like it could be a solution worth exploring, and it's free, so bonus.Garth wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:44 pmPT gets a ton of deserved hate for PLENTY of reasons. But it's not a TOTAL piece of shit or it wouldn't be the defacto standard for this many years. But I also wouldn't recommend it to anyone who hasn't had their brain turn to cement around it already. Personally I am dreading the idea of going through the pain of getting as comfortable in a workflow as I am after 20+ years of using PT. There's a lot to be said for not having to THINK about things or pain over them when you're trying to be somewhat creative.
I'll be having a VERY difficult decision to make if I ever decide (or am forced) to upgrade my 10-year-old production machine though and probably will probably give Reaper another try first. IDK, it's hard to put a price on something you are comfortable working in and works for you.
Thats interesting. Having an on-site Avid certified tech is a thing I guess...benadrian wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:38 am we do a lot of remote hookups from my home studio to various production houses around L.A. Everyone seems to be using Pro Tools. These are all production studios; TV/film/radio sound. They are not places to make music. Everything is AVID
I'm just glad to see it's not just me trying to go from Pro Tools to Reaper, but that other people are lost going the other direction. But you nailed the feeling.benadrian wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:38 am You see, I use Reaper at home.
Almost every place has Pro Tools and when I sit down I feel like a 90 year old trying to use a smartphone. It sucks.
I'm not a PT user but I do use Adobe stuff, Mac OS, various Microsoft products and it's always the same deal in tech: 800-pound-gorilla versus stuff that's better/cheaper/easier. It's tempting to get righteously indignant, but if you're a working professional, there's a lot to be said about just going with the big players and rolling it in as a cost of doing business, particularly if it eliminates compatibility risks, or if there's a solid support community around it. That said, I am Reaper4Lifebenadrian wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:38 am I'm in the middle of the DAW hellscape right now.
You see, I use Reaper at home. It's been fantastic for personal work. However, my spouse has been getting a ton of voiceover work recently and I end up being her engineer at home. As we travel, we sometimes need to do work in random studios. Almost every place has Pro Tools and when I sit down I feel like a 90 year old trying to use a smartphone. It sucks. I don't want to own and operate Pro Tools, but I feel like I need to have a general understanding of it as an audio professional.
Secondly, we do a lot of remote hookups from my home studio to various production houses around L.A. Everyone seems to be using Pro Tools. These are all production studios; TV/film/radio sound. They are not places to make music. Everything is AVID because Pro Tools and Avid editing hold hands very well. Also, they are businesses that have on site techs and just throw money at problems. Knowing all this, I realized that if I want to work more in this world I really need to take some Avid lessons or something.