Did anyone happen to record Shellac's set lists for the Knoxville and Birmingham shows? And also if there are any pix/videos/torrents of the shows, these links would be much appreciated!
Thx.

Didn't see Knoxville or Birmingham but I saw Athens last night. I don't do the photography or bootlegging thing. Nor do I keep careful notes on setlists (seemed like the band wasn't operating from a list either - all very off-the-cuff and spontaneous feeling) but from memory, this is roughly how it went ...

In A Minute
The Squirrel Song
Paco
This is a Picture
Canada
Hold It Steady
Be Prepared
My Black Ass
Prayer To God
Billiard Player Song
Song of the Minerals
Wingwalker
The End of Radio
Crow

I'm forgetting some and there were some that I simply didn't know the name. I probably screwed up a song or two as well but this is the gist of it. They played a long set - 90 minutes or thereabouts. Todd Trainer was in rare form. The black-and-clear blouse really worked for him.

They definitely are not working from a setlist - at both shows they were clearly debating on stage as to which song they would play next. They played a couple of new songs in Knox. In Birmingham they played several new songs whose names I do not know. Thus the reason for this post.

In Knoxville Todd sported a plain white t-shirt - drenched in sweat by the third song, and in Birmingham Todd donned the same black-and-clear blouse of which you speak. He looked impeccable and the band was tighter than a 12-year old asian girl both nights.

In Birmingham, Bob wore a red sweat band on his right wrist - green on his left. And his t-shirt had a hotdog and can of mustard on it.

I don't usually do the bootlegging thing either, but due to the rare form in which they are currently playing, I'm thinking of buying some type of digital recording device to sneak into the Chicago show just to capture at least one set from this tour for posterity.

My grandchildren will thank me some day.

3R41N14C wrote:
I don't usually do the bootlegging thing either, but due to the rare form in which they are currently playing, I'm thinking of buying some type of digital recording device to sneak into the Chicago show just to capture at least one set from this tour for posterity.

My grandchildren will thank me some day.

Yeah, but you'd still be an asshole. What kind of person steals from people who he claims to admire?

Scroll down a little and you'll find some pics from the Birmingham show. There are some outstanding pictures of Todd Trainer. I'm not the photographer, btw.

hey, there's also pics of me on that page. i'm a star!

also this:

Yeah, but you'd still be an asshole. What kind of person steals from people who he claims to admire?

Please explain how recording a live show from a band I worship, and to whom I've paid my hard earned money, travelling around the US to support is stealing, o righteous one.

I would gladly pay Shellac a handsome fee to professionally record their live shows if I thought they were interested in such a proposition.

AlBStern wrote:Yeah, but you'd still be an asshole. What kind of person steals from people who he claims to admire?

3R41N14C wrote:Please explain how recording a live show from a band I worship, and to whom I've paid my hard earned money, travelling around the US to support is stealing, o righteous one.

I would gladly pay Shellac a handsome fee to professionally record their live shows if I thought they were interested in such a proposition.

from here:
http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13580

steve wrote:Here's how you fuck with a taper, piss him off and get him to leave you alone:

You see the taper setting up his "rig," and you tell him you would rather he didn't tape the show. He will say "I don't do anything with them, and I'll give you a copy. I tape all the shows."

Then you ask why, if he doesn't do anything with them, does he need to tape them at all? Can he not just put a blank tape with the show's name and date on the shelf, if he doesn't intend to do anything with them?

He will say, "I'm documenting all the shows."

You say, how do I know you won't give the tape to other people? He'll say, "I do this all the time, everybody knows I don't give copies out." You ask him who else he has taped, and he'll begin a rote recitation of all the famous shows he's taped.

At some point he'll mention Henry Rollins. They all mention Henry Rollins. Stop him right there, and say, "Wow, I've always wanted to hear that." It's important to wait for Rollins to do this.

He will say, "I can make you a copy of that."

Then you say, "I knew you were lying about not giving copies out. Take this shit down and get out of here or Rollins and I will fuck you up hard, you little turd."

and

steve wrote:The tapers aren't doing it for any other reason than they want to. It is an indulgence to let them, as they can occasionally be a nuisance. From a band member's perspective, I can assure those of you not in bands that bands don't want to listen to tapes of their own performances. Honestly. We hear our own music all the time, and the recordings never have even a small part of the energy or chaos that a real show does.

They're not doing it for us. They're making a big to-do about a sad little hobby, and I don't want to either indulge them nor allow them to inconvenience anyone else. And fuck them anyway, the show is for those who are there for the show, not a side-project that is keeping the tapers and others from being completely involved in the show itself.

Fuck the tapers. Go tape the pigeons in the park where you won't irritate anyone else.

does that answer it?

I don't necessarily agree, but I think it answers it.

3R41N14C wrote:

Yeah, but you'd still be an asshole. What kind of person steals from people who he claims to admire?

Please explain how recording a live show from a band I worship, and to whom I've paid my hard earned money, travelling around the US to support is stealing, o righteous one.

I really shouldn't have to explain this to you but, since you asked so nicely....

You are paying for a ticket to see and listen to a live show. You are not paying for a recording of the show. I have no doubt that if Steve (or Shellac) wanted you to recieve a free recording of the show, he would make them available.

The fact that you are planning to sneak a recording device into the show leads me to believe that you already know this.

3R41N14C wrote:I would gladly pay Shellac a handsome fee to professionally record their live shows if I thought they were interested in such a proposition.

As you seem to be aware of the fact that they are not interested, I think this should be reason enough to not do it.

-Al

AlBStern wrote:

3R41N14C wrote:

Yeah, but you'd still be an asshole. What kind of person steals from people who he claims to admire?

Please explain how recording a live show from a band I worship, and to whom I've paid my hard earned money, travelling around the US to support is stealing, o righteous one.

I really shouldn't have to explain this to you but, since you asked so nicely....

You are paying for a ticket to see and listen to a live show. You are not paying for a recording of the show. I have no doubt that if Steve (or Shellac) wanted you to recieve a free recording of the show, he would make them available.

The fact that you are planning to sneak a recording device into the show leads me to believe that you already know this.

3R41N14C wrote:I would gladly pay Shellac a handsome fee to professionally record their live shows if I thought they were interested in such a proposition.

As you seem to be aware of the fact that they are not interested, I think this should be reason enough to not do it.

-Al

I do not think they are interested in recording or selling live shows for MONEY - I don't think they would care one way or the other about a genuine fan recording a show for their own music collection. I spoke with Steve, Bob, and Todd at both shows this past weekend and they are the most gracious and humble performers I've ever met.

I've never recorded a live show in my life, (if you read my first post carefully - I was thinking of purchasing some recording equipment) and I would NEVER actually waste a Shellac experience holding up a fucking mike or anything like that. For me, when I get the opportunity to see my favorite bands, it is a religious experience. Hell, I don't even take pix with my cell phone, (that's why I always ask if anyone else has any). I am completely about the live experience.

My plan for the hypothetical recording was to try and bribe the sound engineer or someone else involved with the band to do the recording for me. Allow me to set it up somewhere and retreive it later. If I thought for a second that Shellac had a problem with it - I wouldn't do it.

Either way, I currently have nothing with which to record and will most likely be too lazy to buy such a thing, so you can unwad your little pink panties now.