Quick Vinyl Related Question

1
What's the longest length of time that can be fit on one side of a standard 140gm piece of vinyl at 33rpm before sound quality will noticeably deteriorate? I have always understood that that if you go beyond about 20-25 minutes the sound quality will be affected. With a release my band are putting out, I was hoping to squeeze something in the region of 25 minutes on one side? Too long? Not a chance in hell? Answers muchly appreciated!
Rick Reuben wrote:
daniel robert chapman wrote:I think he's gone to bed, Rick.
He went to bed about a decade ago, or whenever he sold his soul to the bankers and the elites.


Image

Quick Vinyl Related Question

2
Aardvark Mastering (not recommended) states that the most he's fit on a 33 is 37 minutes.

33 "ok" is 18.5 minutes
33 "quiet" is 23 minutes.

s'all I got. It's possible, but the more time on a side, the less bass you'll have.

You might be able to conserve space by recording in mono, though that's just speculation on my part. Makes sense, though, smaller grooves, right?
HotATLdiy|HAWKS[/img]|[url=http://www.myspace.com/blamegame]Blame Game

Quick Vinyl Related Question

3
,
simmo wrote:With a release my band are putting out, I was hoping to squeeze something in the region of 25 minutes on one side? Too long? Not a chance in hell? Answers muchly appreciated!



Not a good idea; too long. Once you go above 20 minutes, the cutting level will be compromised. It is technically possible to squeeze 25 minutes of music on one side with a loud level but then you will end up with massive amounts of inner groove distortion during the last 5 to 10 minutes of the side, and the last groove will be stuck up against the label, leaving barely any space for the lead-out area. You should never put more than 20 minutes of music on an album side. Even then, the cutting level should be average, to avoid inner groove distortion during the last few minutes. If you want a loud cut, there should not be more than 15 minutes on a side at 33 1/3 rpm.

For 45 rpm cuts at an average cutting level, 12 minutes on a side is the maximum recommended length. 10 minutes is optimal.

Is your source analog or digital? If it is analog, please do yourself the favor and send your master tapes to a facility that is able to cut in pure analog without the use of a digital delay, for example AcousTech Mastering in California:

http://www.recordtech.com/lp.htm

Or Exchange Mastering in London:

http://www.exchangemastering.co.uk

At The Exchange you also have the choice of lacquer or DMM (Direct Metal Mastering).

Quick Vinyl Related Question

6
max cooper wrote:
Humphrey Bear wrote:,
simmo wrote:With a release my band are putting out, I was hoping to squeeze something in the region of 25 minutes on one side? Too long? Not a chance in hell? Answers muchly appreciated!



Not a good idea; too long. Once you go above 20 minutes, the cutting level will be compromised. It is technically possible to squeeze 25 minutes of music on one side with a loud level but then you will end up with massive amounts of inner groove distortion during the last 5 to 10 minutes of the side


Actually, it's not just inner groove distortion. It increases throughout the entire playback of the record.

Here's the deal.

With a properly aligned cartridge, the tracking error is zero at the beginning and zero at the end of the side. The tracking error is 1 at a point halfway between the beginning and the end. Mentioning this because it's commonly thought that "inner groove distortion" is caused by tracking error.

The cutting head is driven by an amplifier. Say you're making a record of a 60 Hz sinewave. As the lathe moves slower at the center that 60 Hz sinewave will cause the head to cut ever smaller waves in the groove.

The 60 Hz sinewave moves the cutter up and down 60 times a second, but with the tangential velocity reduced that sinewave is represented by a smaller undulation in the material.

And since that undulation will be smaller relative to the diameter of the playback stylus tip, we're talking about a decrease in resolving power of the stylus towards the center.

Which sounds like distortion.

Just thought it might be interesting.


[size=16]Very interesting indeed.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests