1. If you had a client at the studio who you heard utter a piece of 100% blatantly racist garbage like:

Mandroid 2.0 wrote:I think the window was open before when I grumbled something about, "....Mexican pieces of shit." I don't care if the bastard 3 feet away from my attempting-to-sleep body heard me.

Would you continue to work with the racist asshole, or would you tell him to fuck off?

2. If the answer is "I would tell him to fuck off," then why are the Forums any different?

(Please note that these questions are not related to an individual's right to free speech. These questions are related to what you, Steve, as an independent business owner, will and will not tolerate with regards to your business and the clients for whom you choose to work.)

Since it appears that a Forum member can come on and type this kind of shit and have no repercussions from it, and if who knows how many hundreds of other Forum members can read this garbage and make no comment about it, then this Forum is a place that I do not want to be.

Typical fucking Mexican move, always crying about some shit

Marsupialized wrote:Typical fucking Mexican move, always crying about some shit

What's worse is them damn injuns.

i agree with you horuss. that shit is tired & completely unnecessary. unless you're trying to fine-tune your edgy netpersona, i guess.

but i don't think your analogy holds up. a forum member is not a client. they are a member of an extremely open community, whose groundwork has been laid by steve & russ. it's a community matter, so to speak. & your calling mandroid out on the comment is how this kind of stuff gets dealt with in that framework.

if you didn't already do so, just do it in the relevant thread.


my two cents. euro-cents, mind you, but still.


edit: ok, read the reply in little details. i can understand the level of anger if you've ever been the target of similar stupid slurs. but threats never come off classy, especially towards women. preview that shit & cool down before hitting submit.

Mandroid 2.0 wrote:
I think the window was open before when I grumbled something about, "....Mexican pieces of shit." I don't care if the bastard 3 feet away from my attempting-to-sleep body heard me.

Would you continue to work with the racist asshole, or would you tell him to fuck off?

2. If the answer is "I would tell him to fuck off," then why are the Forums any different?

Mandroid is a him? Damn, going to get my eyes tested.

I'm not entirely convinced that this means Amanda is prejudice towards Mexicans. This could mean the Mexicans in question were pieces of shit because she was angry with them, not because they were Mexican. It was an unfortunate choice of words but in the context of the post, she was angry and expressed herself thus.

From incidental experience, I do not think Amanda is a racist towards anyone, including Mexicans. I understand that what she posted could definitely be interpreted that way but let's give her the benefit of the doubt.

However, I have to say -

Horuss wrote:If you ever say anything like that within earshot of me, the next attention-starved self-portrait photo you'll be posting on here will be one of you with your ass in a sling.

This is not necessary. Threats against people on the internet are ridiculous. Especially towards women. Definitely not a good way to get people on your side.

Steve doesn't actually spend all of his time moderating a bunch of nerds on an internet forum. He has a studio to run and a life beyond that. Don't assume that because his name is above the door that he's responsible for every single thing anyone posts here or that he's reading every thread.

Steve V. wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:Typical fucking Mexican move, always crying about some shit

What's worse is them damn injuns.

Don't even get me started on THOSE motherfuckers.

Typical fucking English move, ruining the fun.

Wait, he's not even Mexican?
What the fuck does he care then?

This Englishman has just decided to take it upon himself to make sure nobody disparages skeezy Mexican housepainters around here?

Some Mexican dudes were being loud and pissing her off, she said 'Fucking Mexicans'

My god, alert the media.

Marsupialized wrote:

Steve V. wrote:

Marsupialized wrote:Typical fucking Mexican move, always crying about some shit

What's worse is them damn injuns.

Don't even get me started on THOSE motherfuckers.

At least we can agree they are a whole lot better than those liberal panty-wastes...all telling people how to talk.