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dontfeartheringo wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 am Man, maybe you just don't see the implied violence of the herrenvolk movement since you live in California. Maybe you're cool with it.

But living down here in the American Bavaria, these people are stockpiling guns and muttering about violence every single day. It's clear that if we're going to have any meaningful change on policies that decelerate climate change, it's going to have to be done over their dead bodies.

If you're cool with that, then go right on. The rest of us will know how to think of you in the future.

But this January 6th thing is an ongoing movement in the US and there's likely to be no progress towards making the world better and safer for black and brown people, and avoiding climate armageddon, if people are still ok with flexing on capacious emissions and calling anyone who actually cares about this stuff a crying bitch.

Teacher's Pet wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:53 pm FM dontfeartheringo posted this a few months back when a small beef broke out concerning auto emissions and global warming.
I can't stop thinking about it. Ringo, would you care to elaborate?
I'm not disputing this, I'm asking for more details.

dontfeartheringo wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:08 am Man, maybe you just don't see the implied violence of the herrenvolk movement since you live in California. Maybe you're cool with it.

But living down here in the American Bavaria, these people are stockpiling guns and muttering about violence every single day. It's clear that if we're going to have any meaningful change on policies that decelerate climate change, it's going to have to be done over their dead bodies.

If you're cool with that, then go right on. The rest of us will know how to think of you in the future.

But this January 6th thing is an ongoing movement in the US and there's likely to be no progress towards making the world better and safer for black and brown people, and avoiding climate armageddon, if people are still ok with flexing on capacious emissions and calling anyone who actually cares about this stuff a crying bitch.

Especially today. Wtf.

I brought my gun to the protest, I was the only one with a gun, and then I got scared so I killed some people, am I in trouble?

Shit is looking grim. So much for "implied".

wikipedia wrote:Herrenvolk democracy is a system of government in which only the majority ethnic group participates in government, while minority groups are disenfranchised. Ethnocracy, in which one group dominates the state, is a related concept. The German term Herrenvolk, meaning "master race", was used in 19th century discourse that justified colonialism with the supposed racial superiority of Europeans.

Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men. As horrifying as their behavior is, their beloved bastions of liberty (red states) are rapidly becoming majority non-white, and their gerrymandering bullshit is going to lose potency.

losthighway wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:36 pm

Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men. As horrifying as their behavior is, their beloved bastions of liberty (red states) are rapidly becoming majority non-white, and their gerrymandering bullshit is going to lose potency.

I like your optimism. I hope you're right.

Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men. As horrifying as their behavior is, their beloved bastions of liberty (red states) are rapidly becoming majority non-white, and their gerrymandering bullshit is going to lose potency.

Krev wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:24 pm Though there are clearly some ignorant young rednecks involved, this movement seems to be primarily old, stupid white men.