emmanuelle cunt wrote:

zom-zom wrote:MY God. I shouldn't even respond to some of you people. I've never, ever bought anything nearly as hideous and loathsome as some of these listed albums. There is no redeeming yourselves in disposing of them, you bought them.

fuck off and die.

Good comeback.

It's true though, I couldn't imagine buying some of the crud you guys bought. What were you thinking?

Well, when I remember back to my self-taught guitar learning days (tablature out of music shop books), I was way into Hendrix. I heard him, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and the like when I was born (and before) quite a bit...thank you, 'hippy' mom.

I remember listening over and over to, for instance, Hendrix on a Woodstock 8-track so many times that my mumsy thought something was wrong. But at that point, we all get obsessive, right? I was floored by the use of alien sounds in a traditional rock format...and tried endlessly to imitate it on an Apollo guitar through a Sears Silvertone combo amp (later to become a Peavey, with...SATURATION!)

I was lucky enough to not have truly developed 'taste' yet, and grabbed everything that struck me. Now I'm ruined, although my greatly advanced aesthetics have developed until the point where it is hard to find music that elicits the same reaction in me. Hmm. Getting older, I suppose.

Oh, and a couple of friends and myself recently bonged out to Zebra's 'Who's Behind the Door'...awesome. I hate the recording values, though. What a singer.

BadComrade wrote:I almost feel like I was blessed when it comes to how I got in to music as a kid.

Me too. I had a mom who liked folk, weird jazz, and psychedelic rock, and a dad who liked classical and doo-wop type stuff. My mom's record collection is pretty diverse.

Add to that a cousin who was into Yes, Kraftwerk, the Clash, B-52's...well, you get the idea.

As a kid I got a dose of pretty much everything, and I was also fortunate to live in the Bronx just as hip-hop and rap were just starting to happen.

rayj wrote:Oh, and a couple of friends and myself recently bonged out to Zebra's 'Who's Behind the Door'...awesome. I hate the recording values, though. What a singer.

This is quite an excellent song, and any criticism is thrown out with the trash. Canadian Rock Rules.

Fuck the recording values. If they incorporated more tape hiss, would that have made it better?

I am really interested. The "low-fi" culture has always puzzled me.

rocker654 wrote:

rayj wrote:Oh, and a couple of friends and myself recently bonged out to Zebra's 'Who's Behind the Door'...awesome. I hate the recording values, though. What a singer.

This is quite an excellent song, and any criticism is thrown out with the trash. Canadian Rock Rules.

Fuck the recording values.

Oh, I'm with you. I now own two of their albums. Who knew buttrock could contain genuine creativity? Tell Me What You Want, man...

...and by production values, I mean that crazy close-mic'ed drumsound. Really, who listens to a drumkit by putting their ear on the heads? Ouch.

rayj wrote:

Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:It took me a long time to develop even a vague semblance of taste, if indeed I ever did.

I often find 'taste' to be a significant obstacle to my musical entertainment. Luckily, I quashed that one some time ago.

I like Styx. Saw them live a few years ago. Pretty good, and one of the most genuinely creepy audiences you will see at a live show. Yikes.

Ohhhh...worse than any bad record i ever bought. The first "rock concert" I went to was Styx, and wait for it, Blood Sweat and Tears...fortunately it was also the first time i took acid so by the time styx came on I paid absolutely no attention.

Okay, most embarrassing album...Gotta Be Journey to the Center of the Earth - Rick Wakeman. But, I thought it would be as good as watching the movie on Family Classics with Frasier Thomas.

rayj wrote:...and by production values, I mean that crazy close-mic'ed drumsound. Really, who listens to a drumkit by putting their ear on the heads? Ouch.

OK, this is going somewhere. You are absolutely correct on how some drum sounds on songs were ruined by samples and electronic drums, and if you listen to the song "Back To The Drawing Board" on my old MySpace link, you will hear the results of a producer and engineer forcing a drummer to play electronic drums a la "I'm No Angel" by Greg Allman against his better judgement. Our drummer almost became violent against the idea of playing electronic drums (he had never even played them at a music store). However, the producer thought that it would take less time to get them going versus a regular drumset. The producer was wrong, the drummer was right. Such was the state of the art in 1986.

Time has told that organic drums properly mic'd are superior. Synths have gotten better since then, but electronic drum sounds have not.

Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:While I probably have [the first two Boston records] upstairs in the guest room somewhere, I can't imagine putting them on.

but i bet you wouldn't mind torturing your guests with them, huh?

BadComrade wrote:I love the fourth Yes album, it's fucking great. I usually skip past Roundabout, since no one needs to hear any song a million times, but I like almost everything about that album.

FYP.