r0ck1r0ck2 wrote:01 All OF this For You
02 Leaders Of Men
03 They Walked In Line
04 Failures
05 Novelty
06 No Love Lost
07 Transmission
08 Living In The Ice Age
09 InterZonE
10 WarsaW
11 ShadoWpLaY

This was my introduction to Joy Division. A friend dubbed it for me onto a cassette. Everytime I hear "Leaders of Men" the crinkling of the tape due to it being eaten still plays in my mind.

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I remember the Warsaw demos being my first introduction into the world of Joy Division when I was probably 15. Still listen to it on a more often than rare occasion to this day. That and "Unknown Pleasures."

Heart & soul box is essential.

NOT CRAP.

what album is that song, "the kill" on?

that song is awesome.

that damned fly wrote:what album is that song, "the kill" on?

that song is awesome.

"warsaw."

"The Kill" is on Still. The one that goes "and through it all I kept my eyes on you".

"The Kill" on "Warsaw" (the version with the baby on the cover) is a different song altogether. they just recycled the title for the "through it all I kept my eyes on you" song on Still.

The Warners demos on the box set are actually demos for Genetic Records, a Warners subsidiary at the time (early '79, before the band had committed to Factory). The band only recorded 5 tracks with Martin Rushent for Genetic, four of which ended up on the box set (Ice Age, Insight, Transmission and Glass) - a 5th was recorded as well, "Digital", but has never been officially released (it is on a few sundry bootlegs however, in lower quality than the session tracks on the box set).

The "RCA demos" is a whole 'nother story. It's the first 11 tracks of the "Warsaw" album, which was recorded, as an album, for an RCA subsidiary in May '78. The band disowned the album when the producers put synths on some of the tracks, against the band's wishes. The band and the RCA subsidiary never came to terms with the recording, and eventually the band bought the tapes back from the RCA subsidiary for a few thousand pounds. Only a few songs from this session ended up on the box set (The Drawback, Interzone and Shadowplay).

The original Warsaw bootleg release was on RZM Records. Legend has it that Factory Records partner Alan Erasmus had the bootleg manufactured himself (say it aloud, "RZM...Erasmus") in '81 or so, due to a spat he was having at the time with either his partners in Factory or the band themselves.

Any other JD questions?

drew

drew wrote:Any other JD questions?

how come the first half of "still" is their best work?

...um. Shit.

Thank you Drew.