Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
21Well I've tried my damnedest, but I can't find a Scientology term to match with a Bart Simpson catch-phrase. lemur68, I wish you luck.
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
22Ummm...Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread...
But I think it makes sense for Christianity to be seen as less ridiculous than Scientology for a number of reasons.
Christianity began to rise in prominence long before science started explaining many phenomenons that people had no way of explaining prior to the rise of scientific thought.
Therefore, it makes sense that the long history of Christianity, along with the fact that so many kids are raised to believe that such a religion is the definitive truth makes it seem more rational to me than fucking Scientology.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an atheist, and think that trying to live one's life like Jesus is fucked up. I know because I used to try. That's the essence of being a Christian, that What Would Jesus Do Bullshit. You get walked all over, it fucking rules. Plus you really hate yourself when you fuck up. Christian guilt, there's not much else like it.
Anyway, Scientology began sometime in the 1950's or a bit later, if I remember correctly. To even consider believing in some shitty science fiction bullshit without any historical value is completely fucking dumb, appallingly so.
At least Christianity can justify itself to some point in such a way that the bullshit aspects of it are unprovable - I.E. Have faith! Trust the LORD!! The world has changed, and so God has changed with the times!!
Also, some families have had the Christian faith in them for years. It's very easy for most people to think, well my father was a Christian, his father was a christian, his grandfather was a Christian, I probably should be a Christian.
But Scientology is probably based on a failed novel by a sub-par (at best) Science Fiction writer.
In saying that, I don't think it would be more or less fucked up to be raised from birth as a Scientologist compared to being raised as a Christian.
But I think it makes sense for Christianity to be seen as less ridiculous than Scientology for a number of reasons.
Christianity began to rise in prominence long before science started explaining many phenomenons that people had no way of explaining prior to the rise of scientific thought.
Therefore, it makes sense that the long history of Christianity, along with the fact that so many kids are raised to believe that such a religion is the definitive truth makes it seem more rational to me than fucking Scientology.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an atheist, and think that trying to live one's life like Jesus is fucked up. I know because I used to try. That's the essence of being a Christian, that What Would Jesus Do Bullshit. You get walked all over, it fucking rules. Plus you really hate yourself when you fuck up. Christian guilt, there's not much else like it.
Anyway, Scientology began sometime in the 1950's or a bit later, if I remember correctly. To even consider believing in some shitty science fiction bullshit without any historical value is completely fucking dumb, appallingly so.
At least Christianity can justify itself to some point in such a way that the bullshit aspects of it are unprovable - I.E. Have faith! Trust the LORD!! The world has changed, and so God has changed with the times!!
Also, some families have had the Christian faith in them for years. It's very easy for most people to think, well my father was a Christian, his father was a christian, his grandfather was a Christian, I probably should be a Christian.
But Scientology is probably based on a failed novel by a sub-par (at best) Science Fiction writer.
In saying that, I don't think it would be more or less fucked up to be raised from birth as a Scientologist compared to being raised as a Christian.
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
23(sorry i have no idea how to quote anyone yet)
Boombats wrote:
Well I've tried my damnedest, but I can't find a scientology term to match with a Bart Simpson catch-phrase. lemur68, I wish you luck.
Off the top of my head, Scientology likes to use initials so...
Do the BM
Boombats wrote:
Well I've tried my damnedest, but I can't find a scientology term to match with a Bart Simpson catch-phrase. lemur68, I wish you luck.
Off the top of my head, Scientology likes to use initials so...
Do the BM
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
24certain christian organizations do some good things, like feeding the poor. sometimes the same organizations do evil things, like enable child molestors.
i have a feeling scientology has yet to reach, in its comparatively short history, the extremes of good and evil that christianity has wrought. i have a feeling though, that it would touch an evil extreme before a good one, because it seems conceived in greed.
maybe they do some token altruism, i don't know... most rich organizations do, because it's in their interest for both taxes and pr.
i have a feeling scientology has yet to reach, in its comparatively short history, the extremes of good and evil that christianity has wrought. i have a feeling though, that it would touch an evil extreme before a good one, because it seems conceived in greed.
maybe they do some token altruism, i don't know... most rich organizations do, because it's in their interest for both taxes and pr.
jimmy spako wrote:jeff porcaro may be gone but his ghostnotes continue to haunt me.
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
25Dudley wrote:Also, few other religions in this day and age have a price structure at their core.
Clearly you're not a Roman Catholic. Go out and befriend a Jesuit and then you'll change your mind.
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
26It's tougher to deny the legitimacy of Christianity when you're born into a Christian culture. Scientology probably won't make it far enough, or be considered a serious "faith" to gain a bigger foothold than tax exempt status.
Marsupialized wrote:I want a piano made out of jello.
It's the only way I'll be able to achieve the sound I hear in my head.
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
28Josef K wrote:religion - for the stupid.
"That man is a head taller than me.
...That may change."
...That may change."
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
29Skronk wrote:It's tougher to deny the legitimacy of Christianity when you're born into a Christian culture. Scientology probably won't make it far enough, or be considered a serious "faith" to gain a bigger foothold than tax exempt status.
Actually, it's amazing that the COS is as big as it is. I read a biography of Hubbard, and he started getting into trouble soon after Dianetics was first published (before it was a book, Hubbard published an article on Dianetics in a magazine called Astounding Science Fiction), in the mid-Fifties. And he continued to get into trouble, but he was a genius bullshitter and somehow the Church kept growing. It may be on the decline now, but it's pretty mindblowing that it's as big and powerful as it is considering its foundation.
Bart Simpson gives $11m to Scientology?!
30He was constantly on the run from lawsuits, the police, the IRS. He kept his money in cash because he didn't trust banks. He always had a bunch of suitcases and shoe boxes stuffed with large bills, ready to flee at the first hint of trouble.
The guy was a con-man and a nut case.
The guy was a con-man and a nut case.