ontrane wrote:Well just because yr amp got reverb don't mean you gots to use it.?

Use it for more gain. Make a cable with two male rca connectors and a 470k 1/2 watt resistor. Just solder the resistor from tip to tip. You don't need to connect the sleeves as the chassis will do this for you.*

Jump out the reverb tank and plug this cable from the reverb send to the return. Set the reverb control to taste and voila! Footswitch-able gain.

Mmmm ...gain.

You can also cascade the preamps on two channel Fender amps (Bassman, bandmaster, etc.) the same way you would on a Marshall four-holer. Plug into your desired channel and use a patch cable to go from the same channel's input section to the input of the unused channel. Twiddle to taste. Not switchable but pretty rowdy.

*Realize you forgot the shrink-tubing, desolder the plug and start over.

EDIT: punctuation

I have a Fender Pro Junior, and thought I was happy with it until I played through a Hot Rod DeVille in October.

I have never played louder, and the first chord I played through it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. It had Awesome Powah.

According to the Fender website, it has

Four 10” speakers deliver big, bright tone! Our Hot Rod DeVille 410 sends 60 scorching watts straight into a quartet of 10” Fender Special Design Eminence speakers, courtesy of two 6L6 Groove Tube output tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes. Yikes!

All I know is that I became extra aware that people could hear me over everyone else in my line. I felt pressure to be good.

burun wrote:Hot Rod DeVille 410

If I wasn't already selling mine to a bandmate, I'd offer you mine. My problem with this thing was that no matter what I did it was too fucking shrill. The few times I managed to get that out, it was just sorta lifeless. But yes, loud enough for pretty much anything.

gideon wrote:My Bloody Valentine used ampeg V4s.

Since when? I thought they used Marshalls and Voxes.

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gideon wrote:My Bloody Valentine used ampeg V4s.

Since when? I thought they used Marshalls and Voxes.

In one of the Loveless videos, Bilinda is playing through a V4.

But yes, live I remember only Marshall JCM800/900's

pwalshj wrote:You can also cascade the preamps on two channel Fender amps (Bassman, bandmaster, etc.) the same way you would on a Marshall four-holer. Plug into your desired channel and use a patch cable to go from the same channel's input section to the input of the unused channel. Twiddle to taste. Not switchable but pretty rowdy.

That's not cascading. Cascading gain stages means that it goes through one and then out of that through another, in series. When you jumper the channels on a two channel amp, you're running into each of them at the input, in parallel, which is not cascaded one into the other.


I used to have a 65 Twin Reverb reissue. It got a pretty decent distorted sound when I turned the volume up to 7 or higher. Too loud though. I only did that one time for a few minutes.

I've got a 100watt silverface twin, its great and i think its loudness is pretty exaggerated on this thread, unless your all pussies. I do run it with two of the power tubes pulled out most of the time but that only brings it down abit. Starts to distorts on about 5. With a band I usually have it on 7 with a fuzz on constantly.
Don't get me wrong, if your intending on playing it in your bedroom it would be a pretty stupid amp to get. Along side a drummer, svt and a jcm 800 in my band it has good authority without needing a big cab.

I don't think much of the reissues, you can get a good silverface for half the price, spend the money you saved on getting it re-tubed and capped.

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gideon wrote:My Bloody Valentine used ampeg V4s.

Since when? I thought they used Marshalls and Voxes.

I was reading an article where there favorite recording amp is a blackface super reverb and sometimes a blackface bassman. I have 3 v4's and to record with them is absurd. I like smaller amps anyway for recording as do many others.

Matt_Rees wrote:I've got a 100watt silverface twin, its great and i think its loudness is pretty exaggerated on this thread, unless your all pussies. I do run it with two of the power tubes pulled out most of the time but that only brings it down abit. Starts to distorts on about 5. With a band I usually have it on 7 with a fuzz on constantly.
Don't get me wrong, if your intending on playing it in your bedroom it would be a pretty stupid amp to get. Along side a drummer, svt and a jcm 800 in my band it has good authority without needing a big cab.

I don't think much of the reissues, you can get a good silverface for half the price, spend the money you saved on getting it re-tubed and capped.

Yeah I dont see why everyone is saying twins are just sooooo loud. They are loud for a fender but they are not anywhere close to an orange, sound city, and hiwatt combo's.

The reason people are saying twins are loud is because for a combo, they're very loud. I had a 100W Hiwatt 1x12" combo, and it was pretty similar in loud-and-clean to the twin.

There's a whole spectrum of amps, from the 5W or 15W amp that you're gonna run wide open and it gets drowned out by a loud drummer, up to 80W, 100W, 120W amps where if you run them wide open through even a 2x12" they will drown out any drummer.

The twin is a loud and clean amp. The Deluxe Reverb is like a Twin that's voiced totally differently, to get good output tube saturation at a workable volume. The twin is voiced to be loud, sharp and clean.

That's why people say stuff like that about the Twin.