Frankie99 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:38 am

u/stalecheetoes wrote:
I'm a solid middle class guy with a family, 36 years old. I voted for Obama twice, then Trump, then Biden, then Trump again. In local races, I vote for the best candidate regardless of party. I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

We're rolling out compassionate conservatism again as a hand waive at social issues while systemically and financially undermining them? Why doesn't this person just admit they have incompatible philosophies and are using that to play both sides and feel better about the outcomes they produce?

There is no fiscally responsible party. That part of the argument is a wash, which is what makes the rest half baked, un-thoughtful bullshit using the most charitable read.

Why is the national debt so high? Thank the fuckin' Republicans. It's a travesty that these meat vessels can vote.

losthighway wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:34 pm I've been in education for over two decades but my understanding of educational policy is more trench than bird's eye view. Say they actually abolish the department of education, what happens after that?

Homeschool hellscape. Voucher programs for the rich, maybe some whites. The poor and rest will be tracked to vocational schools only—and there's nothing wrong with vocational schools, but there is soothing wrong in forcing people to be gig or service workers only, without being able to develop themselves further if they want to.

Closing colleges. Arresting academics. The list goes on. A cultural revolution/Khmer Rouge-style attack is what I'm thinking, just modernized for our times.

Man, if Don Pot starts burying artists and academics alive, turds like Morgan Wallen and Jordan Peterson better go in there.

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agiant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:23 am my condolences

I'm a solid middle class guy with a family, 36 years old. I voted for Obama twice, then Trump, then Biden/Harris, then Trump again.

conclusion: he doesn't vote for women

how does your pithy conclusion outweigh the one that he spent at least a half hour writing?

I think it's not difficult to understand how it does.

Enjoy your cup of fascism.

penningtron wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:45 am

agiant wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:23 am

I'm a solid middle class guy with a family, 36 years old. I voted for Obama twice, then Trump, then Biden, then Trump again.

conclusion: he doesn't vote for women

Ding ding.. even followed with "Kamala isn't likeable". Maybe she should have smiled more.. FFS

this post must be from 2016. kamala laughed more than any VP in history! it was impossible to run a more unserious campaign.

it was impossible to run a more unserious campaign.

a serious campaign:

https://x.com/i/status/1852543627534414086

Yeah. Maybe she should have pushed harder for the interview with the bro from Fear Factor to be taken more seriously.

Yeah. Maybe if Kamala was already President, instead of second-in-line to being President, she could have proven that she was qualified to be President once she was elected President.

kokorodoko wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:45 am

Curry Pervert wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:36 pm Did you even read your own link?

It explains what the facilities are. It links to another article with more details. The fact sheet contains no "admission" at all, still less does the article, I really have no idea what you're talking about.

Curry Pervert wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:36 pmWow. Help the army....

I count 18 military-related listings and 55 non-military ones - for medical care, refugee assistance, even frickin' zoo animals. I linked it specifically because it has a wide range of choices. The Help Ukraine Center and the Red Cross that you mentioned are themselves listed here.

The things you talk about here do not refer to anything real and the only practical effect they have is to help Russia and undermine Ukraine.

Just wanted to thank you for these well-researched rebuttals, Koko, and for having the energy when I no longer do. Very much appreciated. I salute you in calling out disinformation and propaganda.

I take Reddit w/a grain of salt and a fine filter (even when it comes to bands and natural wine), but there's a "left libertarian subreddit that criticizes tankies from a socialist perspective" that also specifies to "please refrain from criticizing socialism and promoting capitalism." It has some good insight into the whole mentality, why it's so misinformed, and why arguing w/it might as well be yelling at your Q-obsessed uncle:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/com ... e_russian/

The book This Is Not Propaganda: Adventures in the War Against Reality, by Peter Pomerantsev, is also a great read about where a lot of these "narratives" came from in the Russian media and how they ended up being regurgitated by willing victims in the West. There's a particularly nice focus on how they target places like Mexico, Serbia, and, of course, Ukraine. Not to mention the decay of the American news media's own relationship w/hard facts and objectivity.

Nothing to do w/any of this, but the idea of the American left and right engaging in mutually assured gunplay troubles me. There are more than enough people getting shot by accident in NYC (and probably even more elsewhere) w/o having to worry about stray bullets, hotheaded impulsivity, and lax firearm-safety skills from both sides of the politically minded. (Even if one side is a bunch of cretins and the other is typically not.) The right is likely coming for you in far more policy-driven ways these days anyway, Jan. 6 notwithstanding. I understand the rationale to some extent, but it seems a bit like the proposal to arm and train teachers as the best solution to school shootings... It might save your ass but it might cause a way bigger problem. Either way, it seems like a step in the wrong direction that opens the door to all kinds of chaos.