llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:25 pm Looking for drop-in replacement tuners for a ‘65 vintage mustang neck. I believe these are the F-stamped kind, and the ones I’ve found online are for reissues only

I guess the holes on my neck are 3/8”? Is this sounding familiar to anyone?

Wondering if these might work but they’re saying its 11/32” instead of 3/8”. I wrote them

https://www.callahamguitars.com/strat_n ... atalog.htm

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:37 pm

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:25 pm Looking for drop-in replacement tuners for a ‘65 vintage mustang neck. I believe these are the F-stamped kind, and the ones I’ve found online are for reissues only

I guess the holes on my neck are 3/8”? Is this sounding familiar to anyone?

Wondering if these might work but they’re saying its 11/32” instead of 3/8”. I wrote them

https://www.callahamguitars.com/strat_n ... atalog.htm

My guess is the slight measurement is to get around some patent. a single 32nd of an inch probably won't make a functional difference.

Kniferide wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:03 pm

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:37 pm

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:25 pm Looking for drop-in replacement tuners for a ‘65 vintage mustang neck. I believe these are the F-stamped kind, and the ones I’ve found online are for reissues only

I guess the holes on my neck are 3/8”? Is this sounding familiar to anyone?

Wondering if these might work but they’re saying its 11/32” instead of 3/8”. I wrote them

https://www.callahamguitars.com/strat_n ... atalog.htm

My guess is the slight measurement is to get around some patent. a single 32nd of an inch probably won't make a functional difference.

Yeah, and who knows how accurate my little amazon calipers are. I’ll probably wait for them to reply, but I’m willing to gamble $40 to get this goddamned project off of my plate

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:57 pm

Kniferide wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:03 pm

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:37 pm

Wondering if these might work but they’re saying its 11/32” instead of 3/8”. I wrote them

https://www.callahamguitars.com/strat_n ... atalog.htm

My guess is the slight measurement is to get around some patent. a single 32nd of an inch probably won't make a functional difference.

Yeah, and who knows how accurate my little amazon calipers are. I’ll probably wait for them to reply, but I’m willing to gamble $40 to get this goddamned project off of my plate

Any Kluson style Fender tuner (and probably whatever Callaham is using because they are anal) will fit the existing ferrules. But the mounting holes will not line up with the F tuner screw holes. Having said that, two others I got recently that require 11/32” did not fit Fender guitars without reaming. The only F style tuner replacement I know of is the Kluson Revolutions with the parallelogram backs. As someone who has recently changed tuners on a couple of Fenders the Revolution and Supreme Klusons will NOT fit in the existing ferrules. And the new ferrules will not fit in the existing holes in the headstock. It will require reaming. I cannot for the life of me figure out why no one makes a good drop in replacement for the F tuners. There is money to be made as these are notoriously some of the worst tuners Fender ever had on their guitars.

Because my last post is sorta vague and long winded I’ll simplify.

I don’t know about Callaham, but standard Fender/Ping Kluson-style tuners will fit your existing ferrules but you’ll have to drill new holes for the mounting screws. The Kluson Revolution F style will fit your screw mounting holes but will need the headstock reamed to fit the new ferrules because the tuners won’t fit through the old ones.

It’s lose-lose for modern tuners retrofitting to a vintage Fender neck that came with the parallelogram F tuners.

Owen wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:21 am I admit I have a cab problem. I really dig how different speakers work with different heads. It's a problem, I know. So the last thing I should be asking about is buying another cab, but here we are. Most of my cabs are big (4x12s, 2x15s), but the size clubs we play nowadays, it feels like overkill. I have a great 1x15 when I'm playing bass with a Kappalite in it that is light and fucking delivers, and that's what I bring most of the time and my back she is so happy.

What would be a good similar solution in a 2x12? I use a 70s OR120, but it doesnt get cranked as most of my sound comes from pedals.

This feller came up on local CL. https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/msg/d/ ... 15237.html

Advantages: It's not rat fur, it has casters already, it doesn't look like the usual ugly AF combo mods, but most importantly it's cheap as chips. Try it out w/ speakers you already have & see if it's a good fit,. You're not out much if it ain't.
Disadvantages: open back is not going to give you that "tight, focused" sound you might be used to hearing with your 4x12s as those are almost always sealed.

These sorts of things pop up on local CLs/FBMktPlatz alla time from folks looking to get a couple bucks instead of chucking to the curb on odd-size trash day.

tommy wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:13 pm Because my last post is sorta vague and long winded I’ll simplify.

I don’t know about Callaham, but standard Fender/Ping Kluson-style tuners will fit your existing ferrules but you’ll have to drill new holes for the mounting screws. The Kluson Revolution F style will fit your screw mounting holes but will need the headstock reamed to fit the new ferrules because the tuners won’t fit through the old ones.

It’s lose-lose for modern tuners retrofitting to a vintage Fender neck that came with the parallelogram F tuners.

Looks like someone was already there first. Maybe not a negative in this case?

time for the dowels and the drill press

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:55 pm

tommy wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:13 pm Because my last post is sorta vague and long winded I’ll simplify.

I don’t know about Callaham, but standard Fender/Ping Kluson-style tuners will fit your existing ferrules but you’ll have to drill new holes for the mounting screws. The Kluson Revolution F style will fit your screw mounting holes but will need the headstock reamed to fit the new ferrules because the tuners won’t fit through the old ones.

It’s lose-lose for modern tuners retrofitting to a vintage Fender neck that came with the parallelogram F tuners.

Looks like someone was already there first. Maybe not a negative in this case?

Jesus. Someone went to town on that. In this case it might be good news that installing traditional style like you originally posted won’t meet stripped out screw holes (none of the holes match). The bad news is someone has clearly already reamed those tuner shaft holes so who knows what bushings will fit. Do you have a top pic?

You could just get a bunch of toothpicks and wood glue and start over. This would be ugly as sin but mechanically sound.